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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2275960
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Mike, I wasnt there to see what you saw, but it sure sounds like grounds for disqualification to me. If a car goes on a trailer, a flatbed, or a tow truck it is done. Unless it is to be removed from a dangerous roadside situation for repairs. If you can pull off to the side of the road and fix it there you have to do that. If there is no shoulder, no place to get off the road, then yes you can tow it to the next exit or safe area but you have to work on it there. You can't tow it to a garage for anything.


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2275978
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
Mike, I wasnt there to see what you saw, but it sure sounds like grounds for disqualification to me. If a car goes on a trailer, a flatbed, or a tow truck it is done. Unless it is to be removed from a dangerous roadside situation for repairs. If you can pull off to the side of the road and fix it there you have to do that. If there is no shoulder, no place to get off the road, then yes you can tow it to the next exit or safe area but you have to work on it there. You can't tow it to a garage for anything.


OK.. but I know who it was and seen it.. but if
you say its the rules... ok... are you allowed
to change a block now days
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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276023
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•Swapping engines so that one is used for the dragstrip and another for the on-road drives is not allowed. One
long-block is to be used for the entire competition, barring the need for impromptu repairs.


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276025
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In 2016 Jeff Lutz burned up a spindle on the Strange strut on the Pro Mod Camaro about 2 miles from the hotel, which was less than five miles from the track. Jeff and the Camaro sat alongside the highway all night long waiting for parts to get there in the morning, then fixed it and drove to the hotel for one half hour of sleep. When we were leaving the hotel at about 8 a.m. Lutz was just rolling in and had not even slept. If it would have been legal for them to tow the car to the motel parking lot, sleep while they were waiting for parts, do the repairs there, then tow it five miles back to where it broke. I'm sure he would have done it


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276031
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So, Im just not going to chance calling a tow truck at all then, unless Im completely out. Just not worth the chance of being DQ'd to me.

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276054
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I've always taken the rules about towing as written and have never seen otherwise. The Hot Rod team has given us the advice that you can "drive" off the route, to get parts or repair or hotel, etc., as long as you get back on the route at the same place you got off. Likewise if you make a navigation mistake. I will say that If someone has to drop out due to being towed and they get their car repaired, Hot Rod will allow you to keep making passes at the rest of the tracks and finish the week, but they are out of competition. That's why you see some people that were towed still at the tracks later, but if you look at the results they will be listed as out. Good luck this year.

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276097
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Thank you all. Hope to see you all there.

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276101
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
Mike, I wasnt there to see what you saw, but it sure sounds like grounds for disqualification to me. If a car goes on a trailer, a flatbed, or a tow truck it is done. Unless it is to be removed from a dangerous roadside situation for repairs. If you can pull off to the side of the road and fix it there you have to do that. If there is no shoulder, no place to get off the road, then yes you can tow it to the next exit or safe area but you have to work on it there. You can't tow it to a garage for anything.


OK.. but I know who it was and seen it.. but if
you say its the rules... ok... are you allowed
to change a block now days
wave


Well, spill the beans! Enquiring minds want to know. stirthepot

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2276106
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
Mike, I wasnt there to see what you saw, but it sure sounds like grounds for disqualification to me. If a car goes on a trailer, a flatbed, or a tow truck it is done. Unless it is to be removed from a dangerous roadside situation for repairs. If you can pull off to the side of the road and fix it there you have to do that. If there is no shoulder, no place to get off the road, then yes you can tow it to the next exit or safe area but you have to work on it there. You can't tow it to a garage for anything.


OK.. but I know who it was and seen it.. but if
you say its the rules... ok... are you allowed
to change a block now days
wave


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276117
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They update the rules every three years, and often make new rules based on specific circumstances. They used to allow commercial tow trucks to be called, but Bill Fowler used one about five times one year, so "The Fowler Rule" was adopted.

After we took Darren's Charger through tech on a trailer in 2012, they adopted a rule that all vehicles must start on their own and run in tech. It's "The Gebhart Rule"...embarrassing!



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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: MoparBilly] #2276122
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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
They update the rules every three years, and often make new rules based on specific circumstances. They used to allow commercial tow trucks to be called, but Bill Fowler used one about five times one year, so "The Fowler Rule" was adopted.

After we took Darren's Charger through tech on a trailer in 2012, they adopted a rule that all vehicles must start on their own and run in tech. It's "The Gebhart Rule"...embarrassing!



Thanks for clearing that up
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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276204
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I think Maschmeier has had more rules named after him than anyone. LOL.Wish Monte were here to clarify that.

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2276259
03/26/17 12:22 AM
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It was before my time but from what I understand Maschmier's car caused quite the stir the first year he ran it.


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2277711
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Still considering going with the fitech for dragweek. What would be a good reliable inline fuel pump for 600 hp?

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2277793
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Bosch 044? (overkill)
The inline 255 from FITech?

Most EFI components are rated at 43.5psi, FITech runs at 58psi, so be aware of that when looking at flow and current ratings. The FITech regulator can only handle 1 340LPH pump, I am using Racetronix pumps in-tank.

Good fuel pump comparison:
http://realstreetperformance.com/Fuel-Pump-Comparison-Test.html

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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2277804
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That's a interesting comparison. Thanks for link.

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2278402
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For Dragweek, I just picked up a FITECH 800HP mean street setup, and an Aeromotive dual 340 stealth setup to put in my cell. I will only run 1 pump, but if something happens, all I have to do is move the power wire and feed line and I'm back on the road.

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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2278437
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Will check them out, sounds like a interesting option

Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2278875
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Do not get an Fitech.. they are still having quite the problems and I still get them coming across my dyno quite often the majority do not work properly. Most is to do with transient fueling issues.

The Holley is a better system and has a lot more engineering hours put in as they seem to work better out of the box.

A GSL-392 walbro 255 inline supports 500~RWHP and an 044 bosch is around 650-700 RWHP. Never hurts to carry a spare!!


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Re: Dragweek 2017 Questions [Re: Dart451] #2278913
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Efidart, which Fitech systems are having the issues, the lower horsepower ones, the dual throttle body units, blow through, or all of them?

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