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Leaf springs, natural or painted? #227659 02/17/09 10:13 AM 02/17/09 10:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Ozark Mo. BADBEE OP master
BADBEE OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Ozark Mo.	What is the correct finish?

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: BADBEE] #227660 02/17/09 10:47 AM 02/17/09 10:47 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx hemi68charger master
hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	depends on the year... From what I've gathered on here, more often than not, '68 and earlier were natural whereas '69 and later painted black.. I'm sure someone else will have input... Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: hemi68charger] #227661 02/17/09 02:35 PM 02/17/09 02:35 PM
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RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	It is different for E-body cars than it is for B-Body's? My 69 Runner had black springs but I don't know if they were painted or if they were black from the tempering process? It did not seem like the black would flake off or scrape off. I used Eastwood's zinc phosphate spray paint on mine and it gave them a dark, natural steel look rather than a painted look. I left the clamps natural and just clear coated them with a satin clear. If you look at the side view of my car in the photos on the attached signature, you can get a good idea of how the springs look. No one ever suggested that they looked incorrect but I've seen them done differently on some other cars.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #227662 02/17/09 02:56 PM 02/17/09 02:56 PM
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BADBEE OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Ozark Mo.	This is a 70 Cuda that we are working on.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: BADBEE] #227663 02/17/09 03:05 PM 02/17/09 03:05 PM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	Here are mine.. Since it's a '68, I left them natural. Rebuilt the spring assembly with the total rebuild kits you can get. I Matte cleared them prior to installation to retain the natural look while maintaining corrosion control. If painted, I believe the complete assembled spring, minus the hangers and shackle of course, is painted black to include the clamps.. Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: hemi68charger] #227664 02/17/09 04:23 PM 02/17/09 04:23 PM
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THESHAKERPROJECT super stock T Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,163 NORTHERN VA	Most I have seen were natural for E-Bodys.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: hemi68charger] #227665 02/18/09 02:49 AM 02/18/09 02:49 AM
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Slim Smitty mopar S Joined: May 2004 Posts: 503 Sooner state	Quote: I Matte cleared them prior to installation to retain the natural look while maintaining corrosion control. What brand of clear did you use? I've used Eastwood's satin clear on a few parts, it really made them look satin and not natural. I'm also concerned it will get white marks if it's scratched. Just wondering if you're using something different. If the springs are cleared in that pic, they look pretty good. - - - - - - - 65 Coronet

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: Slim Smitty] #227666 02/18/09 08:50 AM 02/18/09 08:50 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Another thing to be concerned about when using clear on bare metal parts,is that sooner or later rust will form under the clear coat.Ask me and many others how we know!

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? #227667 02/18/09 08:55 AM 02/18/09 08:55 AM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	Quote: Another thing to be concerned about when using clear on bare metal parts,is that sooner or later rust will form under the clear coat.Ask me and many others how we know! Not to doubt you since I used it, but how-so from a curious point of view? Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: Slim Smitty] #227668 02/18/09 08:57 AM 02/18/09 08:57 AM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	Quote: Quote: I Matte cleared them prior to installation to retain the natural look while maintaining corrosion control. What brand of clear did you use? I've used Eastwood's satin clear on a few parts, it really made them look satin and not natural. I'm also concerned it will get white marks if it's scratched. Just wondering if you're using something different. If the springs are cleared in that pic, they look pretty good. I used this.. You usually can pick some up at Hobby Lobby or order it online, google Krylon Matte Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: hemi68charger] #227669 02/18/09 10:27 AM 02/18/09 10:27 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	One of the resto shops told me that moisture gets trapped under the aerosol type clear coats and eventually will develope flash/surface rust on the part.He told me this after I had sprayed some of my parts and sure enough after a few months the rust appeared.Of course it was trapped under the clear coat so I had to strip off the clear coat to get to the rust.Now he also told me that if it is sprayed with a gun you're less likely to have this problem.I hope you guys don't run into this problem,but me and a few of my other buddies did.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: BADBEE] #227670 02/18/09 10:28 AM 02/18/09 10:28 AM
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gtx69 super gas G Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,476	Who sells the rebuilt kit?

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: gtx69] #227671 02/18/09 01:28 PM 02/18/09 01:28 PM
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THESHAKERPROJECT super stock T Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,163 NORTHERN VA	On natural steel I have use a product called Boesheild T9 ...kinda like a clear spray wax used for aircraft landing gear rust protection. If you drive your cars in the rain then I would paint the springs a natural color (rustoleum stainless steel)then dust them with the Boesheild or Eastwood rust protection spray.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #227672 02/18/09 01:42 PM 02/18/09 01:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,519 Buffalo, NY U.S.A. MrNormsTA master
MrNormsTA master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,519 Buffalo, NY U.S.A.	Good post. Many parts were natural bare metal. You have 3 choices when doing a resto, strip and leave bare, strip and clear, or strip and try to use a paint that matches the original metal color. Although I did a few small items, clear just doesn't look right IMO. I tried to stay away from clear on large parts, but am not doing an OE resto, so many of my parts I primed and used metal simulated paints, for example springs, spring hangers, front suspension, driveshaft, brake and pedal assemblies. Very happy with some of the Eastwood metal paint products. On the springs, I have heard both ways were found, so I went with painted black with natural bands. Rick. Last edited by MrNormsTA; 02/18/09 01:44 PM.

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: gtx69] #227673 02/18/09 01:50 PM 02/18/09 01:50 PM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	Quote: Who sells the rebuilt kit? I believe Bill over at : http://amhightechauto.com/ Roger Gibson Auto Restoration: http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/ Bill Rolik as well: http://billrolikenterprises.com/ Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Leaf springs, natural or painted? [Re: MrNormsTA] #227674 02/18/09 01:52 PM 02/18/09 01:52 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	I'm sure there are different ways certain cars were done depending on model, year and plant. I had thought that black was correct on my '70 Lynch Rd. 'Bee and the clamps, springs and front hangers were all together and painted gloss black at once. Oh well, If I'm wrong, it's not like the rest of the car is 100% correct! Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

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