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Re: Challanger Demon
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The flares add 3 1/2 inches to width of car
This car has a new system to help prevent wheel hop. If it can pull a 1.45 g. Then it must work pretty well
It coming with the 315s on all 4 corners. If you put the skinnys on front. You now have a extra set for the rear
Not mentioned cause hellcats already have them is the launch control (basically a form of trans brake.....I know on our car (stick shift) I can set it anywhere from 2200-4000 rpm shove clutch in hit it. Hold gas to floor and it will stay at that rpm till I release clutch
Yes it pointed at a track car. But dodge wants this on the road and in public eye. Not pampered like a piece of gold in someone garage
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Re: Challanger Demon
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... With the hemi being gone 2-3 years. Mopar is going out with. A bang Anyone else have information on the end of the gen III pending? From ALLPAR.COM 2021. 450 000 engines a year since 2003. Plenty of blocks out there. Matt
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I was referring to you won't be able to buy a vehicle with a hemi base motor after 2020. Will be v6 turbo/twin turbo cars
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I thought just the 5.7 was getting cut?
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Re: Challanger Demon
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The 5.7 is just the first to go
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Re: Challanger Demon
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03/12/17 08:58 PM
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Can you elaborate or or are there any pics of the "hole-shot" wheels? Is that just a description, or the company who manufactured them?
Just saw the "wrinkling tire" pic. But still curious. I asked the insider. He said the "hole shot" wheels was just the name the srt people gave the wheel That when it is delivered will have the 4 315 drag radials on it. And the 2 skinny wheels will be part of the chest (not sure if have to pay extra for that) Thanks. "hole-shot" caught my attention because I have Holeshot brand wheels on my car and they are here near Daytona. Too bad they couldn't have gotten the Drag Pak wheel contract instead of Bogart (Last I heard.)
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Re: Challanger Demon
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03/13/17 01:18 PM
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Am I the only one puzzled by the fact that they are supposedly trying to make this a 'drag car' street car, but they didn't put a solid rear in it like the body in white cars? I mean how much money are you going to spend reinforcing the independent rear and then designing high tech traction control systems to prevent things like wheel hop when you could have just put the RIGHT rear suspension/axle in the car in the first place?
If you were trying to build an all around car then it makes perfect sense to keep the independant rear, but the more I hear about this car the less I think it is meant to be or is going to be anything even remotely competitive in the handling department.
Certain things just seem like a total waste of money, like selling it with custom 3xx series front wheels and tires when it is geared towards drag racing. Those can't be cheap, and who is really going to use them (and for what?) Hey, a guy w/some common sense............love it........I'm not the only bad guy here.......... 
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Any time you have a limited production car there is big Mark up
Was posted on the Hellcat board today. Pending passing smog testing. Will have 1000hp at crank
It's good times at mopar right now. With the hemi being gone 2-3 years. Mopar is going out with. A bang Ft looks kinda like a new Mustwang........... 
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Re: Challanger Demon
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03/13/17 10:49 PM
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The SRT cars after 2020 will still have V8's, the R/T was supposed to switch to twin turbo V6 power but the EPA is being looked at now and the 2022 54.5 MPG fleet average is likely going away. The 5.7 hemi costs less to build than the Pentastar V6, so if the MPG rules get rolled back expect that engine, or an updated version of it to live on for many years in typical ChryCo fashion. POTUS meeting with the Detroit 3 CEO's about it this week http://www.autonews.com/article/20170313...ules-in-detroit
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Can you elaborate or or are there any pics of the "hole-shot" wheels? Is that just a description, or the company who manufactured them?
Just saw the "wrinkling tire" pic. But still curious. Wheels are manufactured by Holeshot http://www.holeshotwheels.com/
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Re: Challanger Demon
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03/15/17 12:09 AM
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I had asked hole shot about some wheels before. And was told they would not hold up to street driving. And many on yellow bullet said they bend easy. I can't see them making a wheel for a 4500 # car (with driver) every day drive ing on street
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Yes, Malicious needs to find a legitimate source.  Holeshot doesn't manufacture anything like the Demon wheels. Theirs are mainly lightweight 3-piece versions with their fully CNC machined one piece styles limited to fronts only. I've been associated with Holeshot and running their wheels for over 20 years and they are less than a 1/2 hour away from me. As mentioned earlier, their race-only wheels would have been appropriate for the Drag Pacs. I couldn't imagine another wheel company called "Holeshot". There is another guy here in Daytona who deals with exotic wheels for other applications, but it's a different company with another name.
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I asked Resume speed about them. His reply was" it's just the name the guys gave the wheel"
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1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink)
1971 charger
2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red
2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I also looked on hole shot site. And didn't even see a 18 wheel
But regardless. The wheels thay make are very light and not for street use
Think dodge is gonna slap some of them onto a car and sell to public and hope no one bends one (warrenty) or wreck from a damaged wheel
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1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink)
1971 charger
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2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
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Re: Challanger Demon
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03/17/17 03:59 PM
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Yes, Malicious needs to find a legitimate source. Holeshot doesn't manufacture anything like the Demon wheels. Theirs are mainly lightweight 3-piece versions with their fully CNC machined one piece styles limited to fronts only. I've been associated with Holeshot and running their wheels for over 20 years and they are less than a 1/2 hour away from me. As mentioned earlier, their race-only wheels would have been appropriate for the Drag Pacs. I couldn't imagine another wheel company called "Holeshot". There is another guy here in Daytona who deals with exotic wheels for other applications, but it's a different company with another name. Insider on allpar oh20 said they were made by Holeshot - and if true, they would be made by them to FCA's specs, not something off their shelf. Just like the tires on the thing.
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Allpar posts lots of bad info, can't beleive it's so popular
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Allpar posts lots of bad info, can't beleive it's so popular I know, but oh20 has been a legit info leaker for years. I wouldn't trust anyone else on that site though. Not to mention if you aren't a certified Chrysler *** swinger you'll be insta banned.
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