Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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We just had to remove the GV "brain box" in my bro's 69 4speed Charger (518 Hemi), since it would pop out of OD with no warning. Dave at GV was helpful, but said it could be a RF issue or a voltage drop issue. Seems that if voltage goes below 12.7, it'll turn itself off & he said Optima batteries & stroker motors seem to draw more starting voltage, making that a problem. We have 2 Optimas in the trunk & one had the positive terminal come loose, which caused the problem...so we thought. After it happened again, we bypassed the GV brainbox & it seems to have fixed it...almost. But also seems a custom made shifter button (micro switch) that controls both the GV and the line lock may be causing it to go into OD on its own. SO, the next fix is to disconnect the line lock from the micro switch & switch to its own on/off switch in the ashtray.
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Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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03/09/17 07:24 PM
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We just had to remove the GV "brain box" in my bro's 69 4speed Charger (518 Hemi), since it would pop out of OD with no warning. Dave at GV was helpful, but said it could be a RF issue or a voltage drop issue. Seems that if voltage goes below 12.7, it'll turn itself off & he said Optima batteries & stroker motors seem to draw more starting voltage, making that a problem. We have 2 Optimas in the trunk & one had the positive terminal come loose, which caused the problem...so we thought. After it happened again, we bypassed the GV brainbox & it seems to have fixed it...almost. But also seems a custom made shifter button (micro switch) that controls both the GV and the line lock may be causing it to go into OD on its own. SO, the next fix is to disconnect the line lock from the micro switch & switch to its own on/off switch in the ashtray. I've done both the the auto 727 and 4spd 883 Mopar Gear Vendors OD's running "stock" type batteries, new charging systems, new wiring harnesses, etc, etc, what a stroker motor has to do with the issues doesn't jive, sounds like a line of BS from GV, both gear vendor OD in separate cars (one with a stroker, and one with a stock 440) would experience the "drop out" of the OD, not fun with 4:10's and running in triple digit speeds, was a very unreliable system IMHO...we did the usual shuffle with GV replacing modules, harness, switches, etc,...put the problem always persisted
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Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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03/09/17 07:55 PM
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Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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03/10/17 03:12 AM
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I hope you are using a relay with a micro switch. That shift solenoid draws a lot of juice and I'm pretty sure it's more than a micro can carry.
Kevin There's a relay installed & I also suspected some kind of RF issue, but once we take the line lock off that switch & dedicate the micro switch to the OD, I'm hoping problem will be solved.
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Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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03/10/17 03:27 AM
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if getting power direct from the battery should not have a LOW voltage problem.....over voltage could be handled with the correct value of zener diode
Micro switch problem can be caused by normal vibration of the car since the contacts in a micro switch are very light weight and very close together That's what I was thinking & was afraid could be the problem. We had a custom housing cnc'd for the switch & mounted under the shift ball as well as the shifter handle routed slightly to hide the wire, so that wasn't cheap. All the on/off switches to the GV, line lock & elect fans were installed in the ash tray, so I'm hoping disconnecting the line lock from the micro switch will be the fix.
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Re: GEAR VENDORS PROBLEMS
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03/11/17 05:04 PM
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I have 3 of them. All are used. (64 riviera, 67 coronet, 79 camaro) The oldest one had an analog brain box (64 riviera) and I had no issues with that. The other two have the digital brain box and I can have a problem if I turn on something with a high electrical load.
I was talking to some companies that have have gps speedometer senders that have relays built in to automatically turn on and off at certain speeds. So far the prices were a bit high for me to pull the trigger on anything.
As for vibration. (79 camaro) only one of my cars has a problem. Vibration gets bad at 65 and goes away after 75. I've had the shaft balanced twice at a driveshaft shop and each time it got better, plus I checked the angles and all is good. Thinking I need the shaft balanced at a driveshaft shop that does high speed balancing. Most driveshaft shops don't have the capability to balance over 900rpm.
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