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Hydrazine in a race car #2261964
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Have you ever seen it used? Any stories? Not much info I could find on the net. Nasty stuff.

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2261967
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Do you want to die? work down tsk
There are way better ways to add heat safely into the combustion chamber up


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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2261979
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Can you even get it anywhere?

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2261986
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Google it, you don't want to mess with the stuff.

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2261990
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I think Garlits used to talk about it.
N2 04. Yea baby...do the math
https://eic.rsc.org/magnificent-molecules/hydrazine/2000023.article

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262000
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Remember when some of the mopar pro stocks had a greenish flame out the header???

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2262004
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Snarl softly and carry a BIG stick 1969 Hurst/Olds Pure Stock 13.23@ 103.1 and the a/c blows cold! Rusty Small
Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Cab_Burge] #2262017
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Do you want to die? work down tsk
There are way better ways to add heat safely into the combustion chamber up


I agree... why piddle around with hydrazine if you want some real heat whistling


Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: DrCharles] #2262026
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Not sure the head gaskets will take that there Doc! eek Heck stick some PU-240 in it and then we can have some real fun.
Todd

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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262038
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I think this was a hydrazine run. There are a couple of different hydrazines, UDMH is probably the most common.

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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: mr_340] #2262039
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Originally Posted By mr_340
I think this was a hydrazine run. There are a couple of different hydrazines, UDMH is probably the most common.


Proof positive that driving over the crankshaft is more than just a figure of speech.

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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262076
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Years ago,when we were young and stupid we added a mix of hydrazine and acotone to our fuel should have just used a dose of nitro.The only thing that I recall about those where how young and dumb I was. work whistling

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262150
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This was the jump up in my altered when we were mixing ether and gas. Crazy power and real crazy hazardous.It was a one and done deal. I believe that it is a component of rocket fuel.

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262317
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Order up a 5 gallon can of nitro. It is blast to run. makes your motor louder and smells like nitro. Makes folks eyes water all around you. drive

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262427
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Will I have to jet it up?????? panic


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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: hemi-itis] #2262793
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Will I have to jet it up?????? panic

Go ahead....you'll just die faster! LOL


Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210
Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262843
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I thought I read somewhere that one of the hot shoes many years ago left a small container in a truck cab, and the heat in the cab set it off, destroying the truck!


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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2262881
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsymmetrical_dimethylhydrazine

UDMH is used as a storable rocket fuel with nitrogen tetroxide. Nasty sh#t! Poisonous, corrosive, often self igniting. S/F....Ken M

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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: J_BODY] #2262913
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
patiently waiting for results.... smile
haha you first. boogie

Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2263104
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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2263170
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Ran nitro in our methanol through our stack injection. It was the most fun I ever had racing. Kinsler Fuel Injection setup and flowed my fuel system and suggested how to jet it with different amounts of nitro. I never did burn one up from nitro.
But I did over rev a 572 BBC down in Fla and put rod out the side of the block on a burnout. It was my fault not the nitro, but the nitro did make it easier to do a big burnout.

Used this to measure the nitro %

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Dang, I threw a block through the rods!

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Re: Hydrazine in a race car [Re: Hot 340] #2265869
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My father worked at Brookes Medical Center (Brookes AFB, SAN Antonio). They were running Hydrazine tests for NASA as it was to be used for control Jets on the different space missions. It was used on the space shuttle for a while and was the reason people couldn't approach it after landing for a period of time. Very toxic. Interesting findings: If you place a finger in Hydrazine liquid or residue you can taste it almost immediately because its penetrates the skin. Whether burnt or unburnt it still retains its toxicity. Will kill (very unpleasent) as fast as 10 minutes depending on exposure. Was outlawed many years ago in drag racing but some people still try to sneak it in the fuel mix. The flame is a greenish yellow. Side note, theres been some cases where poison was mixed in hydrazine and the poison acted very quickly.

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https://www.fishersci.com/shop/msdsproxy?productName=AC116320100&productDescription=UNSYM-DIMETHYLHYDRAZINE%252C+10ML&catNo=AC116320100&vendorId=VN00032119&storeId=10652


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