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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/23/17 03:00 PM
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Who does this work for $340?(I see the kit price and assume by the response you are referring to having someone do the work for that $$) If they are out there I am unaware of them. Last I checked Sullens and HP Innovations were both $600 or more. Just curious.. Not sure what kind of carb you asked about, but M. Sullens quoted me $402 for a conversion for an NMCA legal carb, and I believe Eric was just as close to $400. Thats for both parts and their knowledge. Sounds like he was quoting you a brand new carb? So you'll buy a $340 kit, install it (your time is money), take it to the track for T&N, and then very very likely have to take it back apart and change parts (both time, which is money, and new parts, which is also money). Or you can spend $62 more and likely have a carb you bolt on and go. Ask both of those carb builders how many people they've dealt with that have tried conversion kits, only to spend double because they've thrown in the towel. E85 is $7.50+ per gallon cheaper than race fuel, the payback period for most people is extremely quick. Again as I stated earlier, I'd hate to see someone give up on it because they had a bad experience with a bad kit.
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Chassisman]
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02/23/17 03:19 PM
02/23/17 03:19 PM
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Al_Alguire
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I was quoted $600 by Sullens to redo our Quickfuel E85 Dominator and $1200 for a new one. It work fine on out current engine just seeing if there was more to be had over all changes we made to it from QF. It is nowhere close to what was delivered. This was last year, maybe we need to make another call. Left a message we shall see what he says this time.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/23/17 03:36 PM
02/23/17 03:36 PM
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AJ at Bob George racing charge me $375.00 (several years ago before he bought Bob out) to convert my Holley 1150 CFM Dominator to E85   I did some dyno testing with it at Klamath Falls on a DTS engine dyno, it needed the jets change for that 4300 Ft elevation to make the most power  I put his jets back in it for racing here at 2500 Ft and at 180 ft. above sea level at Woodburn. I need to try jetting it up some more at Woodburn to see if it wants bigger jets down there or not  The car does not vary more than .03 ET from early morning to late afternoon now 
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Chassisman]
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02/23/17 03:43 PM
02/23/17 03:43 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Our car is very consistent and for what it is runs fairly well. We were racing a double here in Vegas last Sunday and from 830am to 630pm the car never varied more than .02 during the day. 60's were all within .005(1.178-1.183) all day as well. Find pretty much whatever the car runs in the AM it runs all day long. But it is just a 440 powered 1900lb dragster.
I think I have the carb pretty good really but not an E85 guru for sure. Would love to see this little 440 crack the 7's before we yank it out of the car in favor of the other motor.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/23/17 07:31 PM
02/23/17 07:31 PM
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Attention Thumper Dart attention Thumper Dart.. Dominic step to the plate we need an E85 Guru
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Chassisman]
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02/23/17 08:04 PM
02/23/17 08:04 PM
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I bought a carb from a member here. That bought the carb from a well know e-85 carb builder .It was not even close. After 5-6 trips to the track .I got it to work right. It is very good now. but did't do me any good. to start with ! I called and talk to who build it..would not help me with it. All he wanted was more money and send it back to him. Good thing I got help from others on it.
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Chassisman]
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02/23/17 09:06 PM
02/23/17 09:06 PM
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Vern,
I didn't know it was way off for you. How was it off?
Sorry about your experience with Mark. I probably wouldnt deal with him again, either.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: VernMotor]
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02/24/17 12:53 PM
02/24/17 12:53 PM
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I called and talk to who build it..would not help me with it. All he wanted was more money and send it back to him. Good thing I got help from others on it. Can't really blame him though. He has a business to run, and the carb wasn't setup for your car. Just like converters, you can't swap them to different engine setups and expect them to be good to go.
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Chassisman]
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02/24/17 03:37 PM
02/24/17 03:37 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Well I called, again and the price is NOT $400, or even close to that.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Von]
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02/24/17 11:18 PM
02/24/17 11:18 PM
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Vern,
I didn't know it was way off for you. How was it off?
Sorry about your experience with Mark. I probably wouldnt deal with him again, either. I had to change everything on it to get it to work for me. pump cams- pumps-jets-air bleeds-squiters
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: WHITEDART]
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02/25/17 01:42 PM
02/25/17 01:42 PM
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Attention Thumper Dart attention Thumper Dart.. Dominic step to the plate we need an E85 Guru Definitely no "guru" on anything but have been getting several calls/requests regarding E-85 so I may just have to call BLP and get a carb kit and build one for a local racer and go from there.............
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Charger453]
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02/25/17 07:46 PM
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Since we are on the subject of customer service...
I was looking at a used carb built by Eric at Horsepower Innovations. I messaged him and he gave me his phone # so I could text pics of the carb and provide me with more info. I gave him the rundown of my combo and he provided me with the info on how to setup the carb. A few weeks goes by and he messaged me asking if I ended up purchasing the carb and to contact him if so. He found out more information on the carb I purchased. It was one a guy was having problems with, but the customer was trying some weird things to adjust the tune. Eric offered to go through the carb free of charge if I just paid shipping. He wanted to know the carb wasn't at fault if his name is on it. What he didn't tell me is that he put nicer fuel bowls on while the carb was at his shop as shown in the pics below. Anyways, fast forward to how the carb actually works... I've jetted up, jetted down, put in bigger squirters, smaller squirters... as he sent me the carb was the fastest the car has gone. Eric will be getting my e85 business. Not only because of his customer service, but because his carbs work. He help me fix ours..Good guy..He knew who build it.
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Re: Going E85 .... Do's and Don'ts...need user feedback.
[Re: Charger453]
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02/25/17 11:27 PM
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Since we are on the subject of customer service...
I was looking at a used carb built by Eric at Horsepower Innovations. I messaged him and he gave me his phone # so I could text pics of the carb and provide me with more info. I gave him the rundown of my combo and he provided me with the info on how to setup the carb. A few weeks goes by and he messaged me asking if I ended up purchasing the carb and to contact him if so. He found out more information on the carb I purchased. It was one a guy was having problems with, but the customer was trying some weird things to adjust the tune. Eric offered to go through the carb free of charge if I just paid shipping. He wanted to know the carb wasn't at fault if his name is on it. What he didn't tell me is that he put nicer fuel bowls on while the carb was at his shop as shown in the pics below. Anyways, fast forward to how the carb actually works... I've jetted up, jetted down, put in bigger squirters, smaller squirters... as he sent me the carb was the fastest the car has gone. Eric will be getting my e85 business. Not only because of his customer service, but because his carbs work. Might want to get rid of those clear plastic float level plugs, they have been known to fall apart.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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