Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Definitely a late build car. I have got an old black and white photocopy of the build sheet. Next time I am home I am going to talk to Bill and see what the dates are on the block. If I can ever find the time, I would like to sit down with him and Judy and scan some photgraphs of the car from "back in the day". I do know that he he raced it extensively and won his Super Stock class in '73. I do believe that him and Judy went on their first date together at the races with that car.
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That would be great Stan. It would also be interesting if he had any insight as to why his car took soo long to get delivered. Maybe check to see if the door sticker survived the multiple repaints. Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer. Maybe at next years show? Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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IMO The Compliance Decal date isn't going to help narrow anything down a whole lot. All the "Compliance Decal " states is that the vehicle in question was built in compliance with the FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS that were in Effect on the date shown above. Which means the date on the decal is nothing more than a verification of what safety standards the vehicle and vehicle parts were assembled under. If you have access to all the information to some of the cars built in the first few days of each month and the last few days of the previous month you will find overlapping dates. Imo the date was changed every month due to the possibility of regulation changes since this "Compliance Decal" requirement was in it's infancy. check your Federal Law for changes or simply check "decal" for info changes. I read your opinion on the other thread I referenced at the beginning of this thread. I was just curious if this car had a factory door sticker that survived and if so what date was on it. If you have some time to kill and you want to read up on 1970 Door Stickers and how they relate on Mopars...here you go: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=116563.0 Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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that leaves ![catfight catfight](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/catfight.gif) B-body VS. E-body & Lynch Rd. Detroit, MI VS. Hamtramck, MI 1971 HEMI Charger R/T contenders:WS23R1A190774 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 11 - yellow 4-speed & WS23R1A192238 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 18 - white automatic IMOLynch Rd. b'cast sheets sequence numbers track early VS. late everything I've seen in regards to these two HEMI Charger R/Ts indicates that they were in process/in plant on "SCHEDULE" +/- 800 cars, which was +/- 2 days as Lynch Rd. 1971 was ~400 cars per day. & with VINs 1464 apart, the numbers can start to get close. IF:WS23R1A190774 Friday June 11 (2 days late = Tuesday June 15) & WS23R1A192238 Friday June 18 (2 days early = Wednesday June 16) so, was the 'Cuda early or the Challenger late? Thanks for your input Dan. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer. Maybe at next years show? Dave Dave and Kevin, I am sad to say that I haven't done much to the Challenger over the past year. I did get a couple of more cool photos of it from 1971 from Goeff Stunkard this past summer. I have gathered up more parts for it but I picked up this Satellite in August and have been feverishly working on it. My goal is to get it in primer and be shifting the Hemi at 6500 RPM's by June 15th..... I plan to take it to Carlisle this year. We will have to catch up! Stan
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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the above St. Louis assembled '66 HEMI Satellite was at least a week late first time around ![whistling whistling](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/whistling.gif) so, plan ahead! real LATE for the '66 model year, do you happen to have the IBM info on it??
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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I have seen lots of reference lately to the broadcast sheet sequence numbers. Does this refer to the actual line sequence or broadcast sheet print sequence ? Any proof ? Why do broadcast sheet sequence numbers not jive with the actual line numbers that are stamped in the fender tags of Lynch Road cars ? Fill in some blanks and it should be obvious which car was last. VIN BCSSEQ FTLINE# WS23R1A190771 Ws23R1A190774 189771 Ws23R1A192238 191340 191570 WS23R1A195362
You would think that the very last car built at Lynch Road would have the VIN # and the fender tag line # match- right? IE if the last car was 1A196700 the fender tag line # would match 196700.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Correct. What I was trying to say that if 197000 vins are assigned then there will be a fender tag out there with a line # the same as the last VIN #
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