Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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I've known Bill and the car since I first saw it at the Syracuse Nationals in 1982. It was then painted a cross of pink and purple ( I have a picture somewhere ) He told me when he ordered it he had thought about a shaker hood but it was one more car payment ( about $100.00 ) so decided against it. ears later at a NHOA meet, I mentioned he should contact GG regarding the late build date which he did some time later. That is another story that I prefer Bill tell
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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I've known Bill and the car since I first saw it at the Syracuse Nationals in 1982. It was then painted a cross of pink and purple ( I have a picture somewhere ) He told me when he ordered it he had thought about a shaker hood but it was one more car payment ( about $100.00 ) so decided against it. ears later at a NHOA meet, I mentioned he should contact GG regarding the late build date which he did some time later. That is another story that I prefer Bill tell He said the car was painted about the same colour as the elephant on the roof. That would be a cool picture if you can find it. He also mentioned the Galen story to us...pretty funny. Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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this Challenger R/T is ~6000 assigned VINs after the "LAST hemi'cuda" - you would need the broadcast sheet for each car to see when they were on the assembly line. so, is the broadcast sheet available for this Challenger R/T? they were not all built on the fender tag's SPD " SCHEDULED Production Date" or in VIN sequence order, my Challenger R/T was built ~14000 cars "LATE"
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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that leaves B-body VS. E-body & Lynch Rd. Detroit, MI VS. Hamtramck, MI 1971 HEMI Charger R/T contenders:WS23R1A190774 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 11 - yellow 4-speed & WS23R1A192238 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 18 - white automatic IMOLynch Rd. b'cast sheets sequence numbers track early VS. late everything I've seen in regards to these two HEMI Charger R/Ts indicates that they were in process/in plant on "SCHEDULE" +/- 800 cars, which was +/- 2 days as Lynch Rd. 1971 was ~400 cars per day. & with VINs 1464 apart, the numbers can start to get close. IF:WS23R1A190774 Friday June 11 (2 days late = Tuesday June 15) & WS23R1A192238 Friday June 18 (2 days early = Wednesday June 16) so, was the 'Cuda early or the Challenger late?
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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met Bill in 1983 in syracuse and again in milan in 1985 . just checked my ownership vin is BH27G1B429165 fender tag is 6/14 .Yes i know only a lowly 318 car have owned since fall of 1982 do you have a b'cast sheet and an original door sticker? can you share?
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Do have broadcast sheet will require some hunting tag was on door at one time but does it not only say month /year
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Using the door sticker for a reference you can find out the exact date were the Sequence number changes over on Plymouths and Dodges on June 1. This can give us all a good starting point to look at and refer back to on cars built later in the month. Hope everyone is following me here.
GVH no car is great than another. Because your car is a convertible it gives us information if your Sequence Number is much higher that others SPDs of the same date then there has to be a reason for this. Being a Convertible if it is later could be because of parts availability. Since no one was there we are trying to put a picture together of what went on at this time via what was built.
I also have a 1971 Challenger 318 Convertible. Any ebody still around now is special and I like taking a look at those E Bodies that are not RTs or Cudas.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Definitely a late build car. I have got an old black and white photocopy of the build sheet. Next time I am home I am going to talk to Bill and see what the dates are on the block. If I can ever find the time, I would like to sit down with him and Judy and scan some photgraphs of the car from "back in the day". I do know that he he raced it extensively and won his Super Stock class in '73. I do believe that him and Judy went on their first date together at the races with that car.
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That would be great Stan. It would also be interesting if he had any insight as to why his car took soo long to get delivered. Maybe check to see if the door sticker survived the multiple repaints. Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer. Maybe at next years show? Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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IMO The Compliance Decal date isn't going to help narrow anything down a whole lot. All the "Compliance Decal " states is that the vehicle in question was built in compliance with the FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS that were in Effect on the date shown above. Which means the date on the decal is nothing more than a verification of what safety standards the vehicle and vehicle parts were assembled under. If you have access to all the information to some of the cars built in the first few days of each month and the last few days of the previous month you will find overlapping dates. Imo the date was changed every month due to the possibility of regulation changes since this "Compliance Decal" requirement was in it's infancy. check your Federal Law for changes or simply check "decal" for info changes. I read your opinion on the other thread I referenced at the beginning of this thread. I was just curious if this car had a factory door sticker that survived and if so what date was on it. If you have some time to kill and you want to read up on 1970 Door Stickers and how they relate on Mopars...here you go: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=116563.0 Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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that leaves B-body VS. E-body & Lynch Rd. Detroit, MI VS. Hamtramck, MI 1971 HEMI Charger R/T contenders:WS23R1A190774 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 11 - yellow 4-speed & WS23R1A192238 "SCHEDULED" Friday June 18 - white automatic IMOLynch Rd. b'cast sheets sequence numbers track early VS. late everything I've seen in regards to these two HEMI Charger R/Ts indicates that they were in process/in plant on "SCHEDULE" +/- 800 cars, which was +/- 2 days as Lynch Rd. 1971 was ~400 cars per day. & with VINs 1464 apart, the numbers can start to get close. IF:WS23R1A190774 Friday June 11 (2 days late = Tuesday June 15) & WS23R1A192238 Friday June 18 (2 days early = Wednesday June 16) so, was the 'Cuda early or the Challenger late? Thanks for your input Dan. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Dave
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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HemiStan how is your Challenger build going these days. We need to meet up with Terry and I can drag Dave down with us when you are back in NY and visit with Bill. Why Bills Challenger might of sat for so long and delivered in September is a mystery but I have a few theories on that but need more information to prove the theory. Door stick likely would have the Serial number and June 71 on the sticker but what if it had July 1971 on the sticker. When was the sched last day of production in Hamtr.for the 1971 build and when was shut down or the two weeks of sched. holidays that summer. Maybe at next years show? Dave Dave and Kevin, I am sad to say that I haven't done much to the Challenger over the past year. I did get a couple of more cool photos of it from 1971 from Goeff Stunkard this past summer. I have gathered up more parts for it but I picked up this Satellite in August and have been feverishly working on it. My goal is to get it in primer and be shifting the Hemi at 6500 RPM's by June 15th..... I plan to take it to Carlisle this year. We will have to catch up! Stan
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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the above St. Louis assembled '66 HEMI Satellite was at least a week late first time around so, plan ahead! real LATE for the '66 model year, do you happen to have the IBM info on it??
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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I have seen lots of reference lately to the broadcast sheet sequence numbers. Does this refer to the actual line sequence or broadcast sheet print sequence ? Any proof ? Why do broadcast sheet sequence numbers not jive with the actual line numbers that are stamped in the fender tags of Lynch Road cars ? Fill in some blanks and it should be obvious which car was last. VIN BCSSEQ FTLINE# WS23R1A190771 Ws23R1A190774 189771 Ws23R1A192238 191340 191570 WS23R1A195362
You would think that the very last car built at Lynch Road would have the VIN # and the fender tag line # match- right? IE if the last car was 1A196700 the fender tag line # would match 196700.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Correct. What I was trying to say that if 197000 vins are assigned then there will be a fender tag out there with a line # the same as the last VIN #
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Stan,are you putting the 70s motor in the 66. Only 6500 RPM shifts, I wont tell you how high a shift the Hemi in my Challenger and the old motor was shifter almost 2K about that. Stock stroke motors do rev. Looks like you got it all, A12, 66 Hemi and the 70 Challenger. I sold my two A12 a while back but kept the four 71 E Bodies. I feel very fortunate to have these cars. I had to trade a nice '68 Hemi GTX for the Challenger project but it will be nice in the end. Hemi E-body projects aren't exactly growing on trees these days.... I have got a dated coded '66 Hemi (carbs, heads, .020 over block) that I will be screwing together for the '66. Nothing crazy but I am looking for 600 hp. I have another "new" unused block (mid 1990's) that I will probably put in the '70. I have got a tunnel ram and a nice set of '65 aluminum K-heads that I will probably use on the Challenger as well. I will save the '70 block for when I decide to go "stock' with it. If I ever do that!! Stan
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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the above St. Louis assembled '66 HEMI Satellite was at least a week late first time around so, plan ahead! real LATE for the '66 model year, do you happen to have the IBM info on it?? Dan, I do not have the IBM card for it but I should probably send for it. It came with two nice build sheets. I didn't pay much attention the SPD on the '66 until yesterday morning. I was looking at the BOM on the Dana and it had a May 16th date on it. I thought that was pretty late until I looked at the SPD. WOW! July 18th! Stan
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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it appears Hamtramck stocked K-frame assemblies where as Lynch Rd. assembled them as needed - Hamtramck K-frame dates are all over the place Still would be interesting especially if the date code was very close to the end of production or very near the SPD. IMO there would be no way to have a very late date code or one that was after the actual production date. The date code regardless would be days, weeks or even months BEFORE the actual production date not AFTER. The K-frame date code was probably the last hand or machine stamped date put on a part of a Chrysler closest to final assembly..........or is there some other permanent date somewhere else (decals, documents and paperwork don't count in this instance ) Mike
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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Stan, you can easily get the 600HP out of the motor. I might pull the 66 Hemi out of my Challenger. Would like to put the Challenger on more of a Diet and see if I can get it below 3100 lbs. I keep seeing the new KB Blocks and maybe Stage V heads and think that would put me close to under 3100 lbs with an all aluminum motor for the Challenger. I also have a 18 spline aluminum case 4 speed for the car and would take off the 12x15 inch steel wheels and put on some light weights. I do like your trios of hemis. I have them in the basement. Hope you bring it to Carlisle, I would like to take a ride in it. I was collecting 1966 Hemi Parts like motor, four speed, radiator. Always wanted a no frills 1966 B Body and they are reasonably priced for a roller.
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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this Challenger R/T is ~6000 assigned VINs after the "LAST hemi'cuda" - you would need the broadcast sheet for each car to see when they were on the assembly line. so, is the broadcast sheet available for this Challenger R/T? they were not all built on the fender tag's SPD " SCHEDULED Production Date" or in VIN sequence order, my Challenger R/T was built ~14000 cars "LATE" This may be an interesting story to some but I believe I owned for a brief time the last hemi challenger built. I will give you the details from a car I bought in the mid 80s from the original owner. The owner was a recluse high school dropout in west Los Angeles. He lived next to my high school and the car was always in the garage or if he took it out it was just for a race (high stakes) as he lost his license driving to a job at Mattel. It got raced on a few wednesday nights as it had a stack of mid 12 sec time slips in the glove box. Had 17k miles on it. Mint shape. About the car.. Light blue metallic, blue interior. 4sp Stock except cam changed to a racer brown, original went flat and headers Options: Shaker hood delete, I found 426 emblems in the inner rear fender wells Standard hubcaps no rally wheels 4:56 gears AM radio with 8 track you could record memos on Had fire extinguisher, not sure if it was factory Why I believe this may be the last The owner ordered and prepaid for it in early 1971. They came back after a long delay and told him production was finished for hemi cars in june, 1971. His dad was a high powered lawyer and sent letters to Dodge management that he would sue them if they didn't produce the car. They listened and from the documentation I read they produced this car out of sequence after the production run was finished. I don't recall the number the car was but this documentation would indicate this to be the last for sure. Back in the day I sold the car to a collector and then he sold it to another Otis Chandler owner, at the time, of the LA Times. Wonder where it is today?
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this Challenger R/T is ~6000 assigned VINs after the "LAST hemi'cuda" - you would need the broadcast sheet for each car to see when they were on the assembly line. so, is the broadcast sheet available for this Challenger R/T? they were not all built on the fender tag's SPD " SCHEDULED Production Date" or in VIN sequence order, my Challenger R/T was built ~14000 cars "LATE" This may be an interesting story to some but I believe I owned for a brief time the last hemi challenger built. I will give you the details from a car I bought in the mid 80s from the original owner. The owner was a recluse high school dropout in west Los Angeles. He lived next to my high school and the car was always in the garage or if he took it out it was just for a race (high stakes) as he lost his license driving to a job at Mattel. It got raced on a few wednesday nights as it had a stack of mid 12 sec time slips in the glove box. Had 17k miles on it. Mint shape. About the car.. Light blue metallic, blue interior. 4sp Stock except cam changed to a racer brown, original went flat and headers Options: Shaker hood delete, I found 426 emblems in the inner rear fender wells Standard hubcaps no rally wheels 4:56 gears AM radio with 8 track you could record memos on Had fire extinguisher, not sure if it was factory Why I believe this may be the last The owner ordered and prepaid for it in early 1971. They came back after a long delay and told him production was finished for hemi cars in june, 1971. His dad was a high powered lawyer and sent letters to Dodge management that he would sue them if they didn't produce the car. They listened and from the documentation I read they produced this car out of sequence after the production run was finished. I don't recall the number the car was but this documentation would indicate this to be the last for sure. Back in the day I sold the car to a collector and then he sold it to another Otis Chandler owner, at the time, of the LA Times. Wonder where it is today? I remember it from Chandler’s collection. I have pics of it somewhere. Someone should have a fender tag info for it. I believe there are other 71 Hemi stories like this.... ordering a car and waiting way late in the production year to get it. and salesman telling them it was not available. I wonder if Troy from W. LA remembers this car. Did the guy have other cars?
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this Challenger R/T is ~6000 assigned VINs after the "LAST hemi'cuda" - you would need the broadcast sheet for each car to see when they were on the assembly line. so, is the broadcast sheet available for this Challenger R/T? they were not all built on the fender tag's SPD " SCHEDULED Production Date" or in VIN sequence order, my Challenger R/T was built ~14000 cars "LATE" This may be an interesting story to some but I believe I owned for a brief time the last hemi challenger built. I will give you the details from a car I bought in the mid 80s from the original owner. The owner was a recluse high school dropout in west Los Angeles. He lived next to my high school and the car was always in the garage or if he took it out it was just for a race (high stakes) as he lost his license driving to a job at Mattel. It got raced on a few wednesday nights as it had a stack of mid 12 sec time slips in the glove box. Had 17k miles on it. Mint shape. About the car.. Light blue metallic, blue interior. 4sp Stock except cam changed to a racer brown, original went flat and headers Options: Shaker hood delete, I found 426 emblems in the inner rear fender wells Standard hubcaps no rally wheels 4:56 gears AM radio with 8 track you could record memos on Had fire extinguisher, not sure if it was factory Why I believe this may be the last The owner ordered and prepaid for it in early 1971. They came back after a long delay and told him production was finished for hemi cars in june, 1971. His dad was a high powered lawyer and sent letters to Dodge management that he would sue them if they didn't produce the car. They listened and from the documentation I read they produced this car out of sequence after the production run was finished. I don't recall the number the car was but this documentation would indicate this to be the last for sure. Back in the day I sold the car to a collector and then he sold it to another Otis Chandler owner, at the time, of the LA Times. Wonder where it is today? This it? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UYwzRRZerBM
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Don one of the problems everyone is having is you have no VIN or VON or SPD or Build Sequence that would be on the Broad Cast Sheet. An old ownership or insurance slip or what ever could help you with a VIN. The Car in the Video is said to be the Challenger. Hard to tell stuff from a picture. I know the person that took the Video, he is a Mopar guy from Quebec and knows a lot about Mopars and maybe I will have to phone him up and talk with him to see if he took a few better pictures of the sign or fender tag or broadcast sheet when he took the Video. One thing in the Video of the FM3 Cuda is I sold John Smith that Shaker Hood before he restored it. I think the Cuda had hit a deer. A lot of people have been asking me about this Challenger. I knew of its existence but have never seen it is person as it was always on the West Coast so I do not know the information I have on it is correct or even the same Challenger. Blue is pretty common on these car if that was the original color. So Don take a look around at old paper work and see what you have. I have a June Built 1971 Hemi Challenger, it is the last one built also for Canadian Sales but not the last one ever to be built. It is a loaded race car so not all drag cars lacked options. The Purple car has a 616 SPD and he has paper work saying it would be built and the paper work Chrysler sent him by June 23rd so after that date, so the FC7 Challenger from New York has a June Door sticker so it could of been built as late as Wednesday June 30th 1971. Another late Challenger has a SPD of 609 but is very close to the FC7 Challenger in Serial Numbers, this Challenger was likely pushed up to be built being an R Code Von but really you had to be in the plant to know what happened. All the numbers in the world including date codes does not tell a complete story on what day a car was built. You can get very close but you need paper work. Late 1971 Hemi Cars, had November 1968 casting dates, the FC7 NY State Challenger casting date for the block is Jan. 1970 the normal time most blocks were cast for 1971 E Bodies. So even looking at all this the is no common things happing with the E Body Build at the end of the Year. No sure if Chrysler really cared about a Lawyer or a Lawsuit. They have plenty of Lawyers on the payroll for just this kind of things if a person thinks they could sue and win a cast of a Challenger not being built.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: Is this '71 Hemi Challenger in the running for the last Hemi
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No shaker hood. Am radio, yes but it was 8 track iirc and it had a mike to record memos. No 8 track in 71 but you are probably thinking of the optional 71 cassette player which had a mic and the capability of recording memos. It would have been on the floor, either mounted on the console or just mounted on the floor between the seats if the car didn't have a console. You could get the cassette player with just an am radio in 71.
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A
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