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Help with crank manufacture? #2237652
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I recently purchased some parts and I'm not sure what brand crank this is? I'm hoping someone here can help me. It's a 3.250 stroke crank. Mains are 2.500. Rod journals are 2.100. Part number on the crank is 83718.1 any info would be appreciated!
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237656
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237657
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237795
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Any help would be appreciated on this! I was thinking Kellogg or possibley Weinberg? Someone has to have some info?

Thanks, Mark

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237834
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I would check with Weinberg on that crank..

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237836
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Thanks! Will do!

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237889
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I checked with Kellogg and it's not one of there's. So that eliminates them!

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237890
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Check with Scat.. they make billet cranks for
MP... I have a 3.79 and a 4.00 billet from them
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2237894
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Check with Moldex and also King

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237914
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Thanks guys!👍🏻

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237931
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That doesn't look like any billet crank I have seen. Scat, Eagle, Molonar, etc. forged.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2237999
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It's a not a king either. It was really dirty I'm going to try and find any other numbers tomrrow

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238011
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Could also be a Velasco

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238016
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Guy from Moldex thought it was a old crower

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238017
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Is it a billet piece?

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238058
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Originally Posted By MGC340
Is it a billet piece?


Looks like a billet to me.. yes it may be dirty
but still looks like one.. clean sides, no
separation lines like a cast or forged.. basically
smooth everywhere that looks like it was shot peened
that gives it that gray look
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238062
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👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238073
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So I heard back from Kellogg, scat, moldex, and crower. There has to be some more numbers I'll have to some investigating.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238079
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Have you sent pics to these places
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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238081
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Yep, I've sent pics to all these places. Waiting to hear back from Winberg.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238119
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Just curious ... What does it weigh? I think it's a Bryant... Looks like their numbering.

Howard

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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238131
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I'll weight it as soon as I can

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238153
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It weighs 56 lbs. and there is no other markings on it.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238348
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looks like a forged piece to me...

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238355
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It has a lot of high end features, but no center counterweights. I have a Bryant and it is not numbered like that one.

Let us know what you find out.

Bill

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I think it could be a Crower. Their current part number for a custom stroke small block crank is 95171C.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238363
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I called crower yesterday and emailed them pics and they say it's not one of there cranks...
I'll check with Bryant on Monday!

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238364
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Is that set up for mopar rods or chevy
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might be a L.A.enterprise crank

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: B1MAXX] #2238402
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Originally Posted By B1MAXX
looks like a forged piece to me...
No parting line.

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238422
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It's set up as follows.... 2.500 mains with 2.100 rod journals. The crank came with Carrillo 6.200 rods, chevy pins... this stuff came with virgin R1 block I just bought. I'm trying to get everything cleaned up and then I'm planning on selling it all... I'll list the stuff soon when it's ready for sale

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238499
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I can tell you it is not a Winberg. I worked there for ten years. Bryant would be my guess, but most of the other manufactures including Bryant share the same shape on the leading edge of the counterweights. Winberg rounded and tapered profiles on their stuff.

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curious.... do you think there's even a market for a 3 1/4 stroke crank?

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Not sure it came with package.... I know a lot of dirt track guys run them for there 360 and limited cubes classes..

Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: MGC340] #2238892
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My hunch would be that it's a Bryant Craftsman truck crank


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Re: Help with crank manufacture? [Re: Skeptic] #2238917
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By B1MAXX
looks like a forged piece to me...
No parting line.


There is no parting line on any 4340 forged cranks I have seen. Stock crank yes. The knife edging appears to me untouched. I'm still think its forged. Just my twocents

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I think Forged as well.

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