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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233837
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I'm hoping this does knock the Hellcat prices down. Then maybe I can trade my Shaker in one one. boogie


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: WO23Coronet] #2233839
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
I think it is good to see Fiat pretty much squash Ford and Shivvy's hopes and dreams of ever building anything to claim the title of BMF'r on the planet. That to me is golden.


The problem is still that GM and Ford are both
quicker on the 1/4 mile... Fiat has to get these
tanks lighter to compete
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???! Do some searches on YouTube and there are plenty of Hellcat kills. Ford has nothing. The later model GT500's are close but no cigar. The new supercharged Vettes can MAYBE eek out a win but it's not a guarantee. Camaro's don't have it for the Hellcat either


I have seen the vette and mustang beat out the
hellcat myself at the local track... I didnt
like it much.. we had 3 hellcats out there that
day
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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233910
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Cats and the measly street tires don't stand a chance even with traction control. Add a set of drag radials and the other brands don't stand a chance even with tires. The extra 400 pounds the cat weighs isn't gonna make a difference..


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: WO23Coronet] #2233943
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
???! Do some searches on YouTube and there are plenty of Hellcat kills. Ford has nothing. The later model GT500's are close but no cigar. The new supercharged Vettes can MAYBE eek out a win but it's not a guarantee. Camaro's don't have it for the Hellcat either


A 13/14 GT500 stock is pretty close to a manual trans hellcat, but has nothing for the auto cars. There are a ton of people who mod the GT500's because the aftermarket support is so good though.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: pittsburghracer] #2233955
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If you couldn't set up your car to hook take up tennis.

i don't look very good in a skirt.......... biggrin
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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: HOTMOPR] #2233960
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Originally Posted By HOTMOPR
Cats and the measly street tires don't stand a chance even with traction control. Add a set of drag radials and the other brands don't stand a chance even with tires. The extra 400 pounds the cat weighs isn't gonna make a difference..


a Z07 vette weighs close to 1,000lbs less... and has only 50 less hp...


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233965
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So what does a FACTORY Hellcat run in the quarter mile. I've seen Hot Rod run mid 11s. But I think that was with a tire change.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234082
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Have a buddy with a Z07 and a Hellcat. The Z07 s far and away a better car and faster hands down..


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Al_Alguire] #2234109
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Have a buddy with a Z07 and a Hellcat. The Z07 s far and away a better car and faster hands down..


Corvettes are 2-seater cars and to me their ugly lol. I'd much rather have a Challenger.
An older guy at one of our local car shows had a black Hellcat last summer, he put new drag radials on it, went to the track to get used to driving it hard and went an easy 11.05, I forget the MPH but 127 sticks in my head, might be wrong on that. But with seat time he'll be in the 10's.
And from what I've read, drag radials and race gas are all that is needed to dip right into the 1.60-10.80 area. up


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234114
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The Z07 went 10.90 on stock tires...Just sayin all around car the Vette is a fair better car. He has had both since new for a year or so and there is little comparison between them. I agree it is a 2 seater sports car but IMO just a way better all around car. But then again my all arounder is a 911 S


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234120
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So a 3200 lb car that runs 10.80's is by far superior to a 4300 lb car that runs 10.90's? To me I would love a Hellcat Charger, because as an ALL AROUND bully of a family car, it has no equal.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234121
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I think the Corvette is apples to oranges, the Camaro would be apples to apples.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234126
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Back in the late '70s who would have ever thought that in 40 years we'd be arguing over FACTORY 10 second cars? boogie


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234166
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All the "old school" guys get butthurt so easy and want to call out showroom cars to run against their RACE cars........LOL!!!!! How about put your race car back in showroom trim and see how it stacks up.

Why can't both sides just be happy that Mopar has SOMETHING from the factory that you can call a muscle car. Doesn't anybody remember the late 70s, then the 80s and 90s, when Mopar guys were crying the factory didn't make anything to compete with Camaros and Mustangs. Now we HAVE something and you guys are STILL whining.........as one here says....."cheese and rice". Get a grip. You don't want a new car, don't buy one, it's pretty simple.

My daily driver is a Mercedes with a measly 400 hp. But it will run 165 flat out, runs pretty damn quick at the track and will take most freeway exits at 100mph, looks good, is comfortable, fun to drive and don't have to work on it. Want to see how much is involved with keeping a FAST older car road worthy, while beating on it hard? All it requires is one trip on Drag Week

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Monte_Smith] #2234251
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Spot on Monte, I'd say that's the feeling of most but the vocal minority talks loudest

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Monte_Smith] #2234256
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
All the "old school" guys get butthurt so easy and want to call out showroom cars to run against their RACE cars........LOL!!!!! How about put your race car back in showroom trim and see how it stacks up.

Why can't both sides just be happy that Mopar has SOMETHING from the factory that you can call a muscle car. Doesn't anybody remember the late 70s, then the 80s and 90s, when Mopar guys were crying the factory didn't make anything to compete with Camaros and Mustangs. Now we HAVE something and you guys are STILL whining.........as one here says....."cheese and rice". Get a grip. You don't want a new car, don't buy one, it's pretty simple.

My daily driver is a Mercedes with a measly 400 hp. But it will run 165 flat out, runs pretty damn quick at the track and will take most freeway exits at 100mph, looks good, is comfortable, fun to drive and don't have to work on it. Want to see how much is involved with keeping a FAST older car road worthy, while beating on it hard? All it requires is one trip on Drag Week
RIGHT !!!! Well said,, some people will never be happy.........

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: unknown] #2234298
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Right,you can never please everybody.Yes I had old mopars when they were a few years old and still like them but their no comparson to a new challenger or charger,just drive a SRT.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234524
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There is a guy here locally who's auto hellcat ran 10.80s stock on slicks. He puts tons of passes on it and it is consistent in the 10.80s. He has since done a pulley and tune and it has been 10.25@137-8. He also does some road racing with it, last I talked to him he has had zero trouble with it.

I know he has had trouble with traction even on slicks. He was working on doing something to the rear brakes so it would fit a 15" rim vs a 17.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Al_Alguire] #2234525
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
The Z07 went 10.90 on stock tires...Just sayin all around car the Vette is a fair better car. He has had both since new for a year or so and there is little comparison between them. I agree it is a 2 seater sports car but IMO just a way better all around car. But then again my all arounder is a 911 S
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The Z07 is a bad ass car no doubt. It should be faster bone stock and is it. It also comes with the Michelin pilot sport tires which about as close to a slick as you can get on a factory car.


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Four 9-sec hellcats in a row at the track, incl a Charger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_X84G5wfM

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