Re: Challanger Demon
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If you want to hear some real bitching, go over to Hellcat.org. Some of those guys are fit to be tied. I guess I would be too if I was set to lose 20 large or more. And become a second class citizen behind these new models.
Of course much of that depends on how much these new models will go for and how many will be available.
Watching this play out is the next best thing to actually owning one. I will assume the first year production will be a 1000 cars.. if it flies more the next year but IMO they need a better name for it.. the Hellcat is a cool name
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I think it is good to see Fiat pretty much squash Ford and Shivvy's hopes and dreams of ever building anything to claim the title of BMF'r on the planet. That to me is golden.
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I think it is good to see Fiat pretty much squash Ford and Shivvy's hopes and dreams of ever building anything to claim the title of BMF'r on the planet. That to me is golden. The problem is still that GM and Ford are both quicker on the 1/4 mile... Fiat has to get these tanks lighter to compete
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I agree they are porkers, but when you can walk away from those guys from 100mph roll on the freeway, that says it all to many.
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Dodge will release it at the New York Auto Show.. it will make more power than the Hell Cats 707hp Are they going to spell it "Chall anger", instead of "Challenger", too?
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I agree they are porkers, but when you can walk away from those guys from 100mph roll on the freeway, that says it all to many. I hear ya... but they need to get a trophy or something so the public can see or show its the quickest out there.. GM stouts all their awards DAILY which is crap in a lot of them.. being it was a GM magazine that gave the award.. but people dont know which mag is who its sponsored by
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I agree they are porkers, but when you can walk away from those guys from 100mph roll on the freeway, that says it all to many. How in the heck roll races. What are we going for a land speed record. Cheese and rice
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Cars are not measured performance wise only by their 1/4 mile times anymore man. I was just giving an example of a real world scenario that happens daily for some folks. I dont spose your Duster would be shine to well roll racing a Hellcat on the freeway would it?
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Re: Challanger Demon
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If you want to hear some real bitching, go over to Hellcat.org. Some of those guys are fit to be tied. I guess I would be too if I was set to lose 20 large or more. And become a second class citizen behind these new models.
Of course much of that depends on how much these new models will go for and how many will be available.
Watching this play out is the next best thing to actually owning one. If anyone is thinking a hellcat will turn into a 71 Hemi convertable in 40 plus years is a complete MORON. From the start Fiat has said they will MASS produce these things and any dealer leaving one on the lot, waiting for the best price to sell will not receive another one to sell. These cars are men't to last 5 to 7 years max, on regular driving. They want you to purchase another one and people will because 707 is not the king anymore. Remember the first challenger 6.1 they had the 1 to 500 signature series. WOOPPIE doooo. Now for the old verses new iron. WHO CARES! Build or buy what you want. And for my post WHO CARES! like it or don't
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Dang my no porn filter blocks that movie....
Probably the same setup, just "adjusted" the computer like VW did.... not!
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Re: Challanger Demon
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PBR *HATES* any street or grudge race lol trust me, he calls us bad words Street racing is for kids that haven't grown up yet. Stick around as it may happen. Roll racing well that's just - - -. Grungy racing is for those that like lots of BS and then a little bit of racing. We never in our lives roll raced and our record on one night was 52 cars racing, not races, RACING. If you couldn't set up your car to hook take up tennis.
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Re: Challanger Demon
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Does anyone know how many hellcats been sold vs total producion? The price of these current hellcats and the future car are not that out of line, look back to the early vipers, the zr1 corvette at nearly 70k in the early 90-s. But how are they selling now that the initial buzz has subsided? I checked the inventory yesterday of the huge Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealer near where I work and they're still sitting on four (4) 2016 'Cats, about the same # of 2016 SRTs, and even a couple of 2016 Scat Packs (with and without the Shaker option). All of their 2017s are SXTs and R/Ts; I'm presuming they're not bringing in any of the higher priced 2017 "hot rod" models since they haven't moved last year's. Total hellcats are over 23k. Not sure how much. But around 7k the first year and think it was 16-17k the second year. No clue how many made for the 2017 year We did not buy in hopes it would stay king of the hill. We bought it cause it's one bad [censored]. And just cause a more powerful cat comes out will not change it
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Re: Challanger Demon
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I think it is good to see Fiat pretty much squash Ford and Shivvy's hopes and dreams of ever building anything to claim the title of BMF'r on the planet. That to me is golden. The problem is still that GM and Ford are both quicker on the 1/4 mile... Fiat has to get these tanks lighter to compete ???! Do some searches on YouTube and there are plenty of Hellcat kills. Ford has nothing. The later model GT500's are close but no cigar. The new supercharged Vettes can MAYBE eek out a win but it's not a guarantee. Camaro's don't have it for the Hellcat either
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