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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SpareParts] #2233343
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I have a 2015 Hellcat Challenger, an 87 Buick GN, 69 440/512 Charger, and a 68 Cuda with a SB 408. Love them all. The Hellcat is a lot of fun, but so are all of the other ones. I can't imagine anything more than 707 from a new car, that's crazy but cool.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SpareParts] #2233349
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it at the NY show instead of the Detroit auto
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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233359
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I was pausing the dodge vid and being they have easter 3ggs every where if you just look
First was drilled and slotted rotors. It has a huge wide snorkel hood scoop there is a demon with a pitch fork lol and the mice are running around (chevy motor) it eats one and has a weird shaped blood drop
It's bites a nascar fuel can
Maybe others can watch and pause and see something that's is or isn't there
I can't post pics. But if pause and zoom in pretty cool


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233488
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999HP and run 9.99.Just a guess.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SpareParts] #2233500
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Originally Posted By SpareParts
Man these old guys get rattled easily. Lost a lot of respect for some of you, too blind to see that you have the exact same attitude that put mopar behind decades ago. We got guys in here beating their chests about their 3100lb almost 500" deal that barely clips a 1 or 2 mod Hellcat and a bracket guy who I can't even figure out where he's at anymore.

I race an old car, it's faster than all 3 mentioned above and does it with a small block and a tiny 26" DOT tire but you don't see me bashing the new stuff and technology. My car would be pretty slow without a modern ignition and power management..... yours?



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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SpareParts] #2233504
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Originally Posted By SpareParts
Man these old guys get rattled easily. Lost a lot of respect for some of you, too blind to see that you have the exact same attitude that put mopar behind decades ago. We got guys in here beating their chests about their 3100lb almost 500" deal that barely clips a 1 or 2 mod Hellcat and a bracket guy who I can't even figure out where he's at anymore.

I race an old car, it's faster than all 3 mentioned above and does it with a small block and a tiny 26" DOT tire but you don't see me bashing the new stuff and technology. My car would be pretty slow without a modern ignition and power management..... yours?


IF you're talking to ME, I'm far from old and fresher, friskier and more physical that most 30 year olds so save that crap. I see why guys bail from here w/all of the bs personal attacks but enjoy and smash this thing to death like most posts. I get mad respect in other places so will head over there so some of you can pound on your chest's some more..........good day........... blah


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233505
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how many NATURALLY ASPIRATED 9 second cars show up??? you left out that little bit of info.

Well as stated earlier I have one that sits in my garage, and it runs 9's on pump swill. It is also a brand C car so everyone here will hate on it anyway. It basically sits in the garage and rarely gets driven anymore. Not sure why I don't drive it more but the simple fact is it rarely gets used these days. I also have a late model car that runs fairly well(12.32 in Vegas)even though it is a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder in the 1/4 though it is not a 1/4 mile drag car at all. It corners pretty well, brakes as good as most anything else out there as well. When we were looking for something fun to drive we looked at a lot of cars and "settled" on this particular car. It again is not a Mopar so I am sure the haters will come. We chose a 911 Carrera S for our fun car. While it may not be the best in any category it IMO is the best all around car for the money we were willing to spend. Maybe we will look at the Hellcat again at somepoint who knows. I love the new stuff, some really bad [censored] pieces out there for sure. And many can be bought for a song, especially lightly used


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Thumperdart] #2233508
01/13/17 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By SpareParts
Man these old guys get rattled easily. Lost a lot of respect for some of you, too blind to see that you have the exact same attitude that put mopar behind decades ago. We got guys in here beating their chests about their 3100lb almost 500" deal that barely clips a 1 or 2 mod Hellcat and a bracket guy who I can't even figure out where he's at anymore.

I race an old car, it's faster than all 3 mentioned above and does it with a small block and a tiny 26" DOT tire but you don't see me bashing the new stuff and technology. My car would be pretty slow without a modern ignition and power management..... yours?


IF you're talking to ME, I'm far from old and fresher, friskier and more physical that most 30 year olds so save that crap. I see why guys bail from here w/all of the bs personal attacks but enjoy and smash this thing to death like most posts. I get mad respect in other places so will head over there so some of you can pound on your chest's some more..........good day........... blah

Did I name you? ? Read your posts in this thread and then act like I make personal attacks lmao and your chest is plenty bruised from the pounding you've given it. Great idea go to the little pond where everyone will praise you and you can hide from the outside. Come on man you can't be that close minded. Everything has a different purpose. Your car has a different purpose than a Hellcat, that doesn't make it better or worse.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233521
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You know it's mid winter when....


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: thedriver] #2233536
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Originally Posted By thedriver
You know it's mid winter when....


When everyone gets butt hurt so easily one wonders if they bleed every month.


I get mad respect in other places so will head over there so some of you can pound on your chest's some more..........good day........... blah


Dude, Mr Banger, swat approved, the only real man on moparts,dont tread on me.... most the time you want to act like billy bad boy and here some dont buy the thug crap, now ya want to get thin skin and run off cause some wont recognize....get over yourself mr mad respect and jump back in the pool here, the waters not that cold.


Re: Challanger Demon [Re: dizuster] #2233539
01/13/17 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By dizuster
I feel like I'm qualified properly respond to this since I have a 9 second 1962 street car, and a 2016 scat pack challenger (measly 485hp). I don’t know how many street “blasts” or ¼ mile runs I have in my life, but I’m sure enough to qualify that I don’t “suck” as a driver.

That being said… the 485hp on regular street tires with the traction control off will get you in trouble in a hurry. I can’t imagine what 707hp or more is like in the same car. You have to be really careful with the car even if you know what you’re doing… You’re kidding yourself if you think the 9 second car on caltracs, 275 drag radials, and drag shocks is harder to drive then 707hp on 275 rock hard street tires, with suspension setup to take corners.

This morning I got up for work, hit the remote start button to warm it up. It fired up with a sweet sounding “whoummmm”… then the idle came down and it quieted back up. Finished getting my coffee and walked outside. Car sensed I had the keys in my pocket, and unlocked the door as soon as I touched the door handle. Hopped in it, and the heated steering wheel and seats were nice and warm. Backed out through the snow and ice with no problems, and took off to work. Wife called, and I picked it up through the hands free phone without taking my hands off the wheel. Got off the phone with her, and then my buddy text me which the car read to me through the speakers. I then responded through the built in microphone, again without taking my hands off the wheel. Then a kick ass song came on the radio, which I turned up (again without taking my hands off the wheel) jammed with my Alpine 9 speaker system as I pulled into work. Romped on the throttle through the s-turns a bit, making a bunch of noise when the computer controlled electric cutouts in the exhaust opened up. Sliding around the corner, the traction control turned on when it started getting loose and calmed things down.

Pulled into the parking space, and walked in smiling thinking about my warranty.

That is the $40~50k experience that a 11.90 340 duster doesn’t have… but with the same timeslip…

For everything these cars lack in drag race ET potential, they certainly make up in other areas. Top speed on my challenger is around 175-180mph. No WAY is my ’62 going to touch that. It’s been 142mph at the track, and it’s about out of gear. I have NO fear to drive the challenger in rain/snow, but I’d be scared to death to get caught in the rain on a warm summer day with the 275 pro’s on my ’62. They are just not the same thing…these cars are built to be driven all year round, and last for a long time while being abused. I know FOR SURE, I can’t say the same thing for my 9 second muscle…


I'll have to admit, you had me halfway out the door on my way to the Dodge dealer lol, good read!


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233543
01/13/17 03:45 PM
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The thing with most of our old cars is that they are one trick pony's, they do well in a straight line and that's it. The new stuff IMO are better all around cars.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233544
01/13/17 03:48 PM
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I miss the hell out of my 13' R/T and it was only about 400 hp after mods. Really a blast to drive. Could imagine a Cat..



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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: justinp61] #2233561
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Originally Posted By justinp61
The thing with most of our old cars is that they are one trick pony's, they do well in a straight line and that's it. The new stuff IMO are better all around cars.

Yep. I like 'em all, the old and the new. I've really had the hots to get a Challenger Scat Pak over the last couple of years, but my future includes 3 kids who haven't even started college, so that sort of expense on a stoopid car isn't in the plan.

In the mean time, I'll still whip it thru the twisties in my modded '02 WRX, and finish putting The MoPig back on the street & track in its latest configuration. If nothing else, I figure I can fly the Old School flag at the strip every time my junk lays down a quicker pass than some $60K+ Heck Kitten. Joe Average's Heck Kitten probably isn't even as quick at the track as my car used to be w/ the old engine, either.

As far as the guys w/ modern cars that are / will be faster than my '73 Challenger, I guess they simply have a lot more disposable income than I do, or choose to spend it differently.

It's all good.

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The price of these current hellcats and the future car are not that out of line, look back to the early vipers, the zr1 corvette at nearly 70k in the early 90-s.

I think they are being very smart but soon they will have to figure out how to one up themselves in areas other then HP, weight maybe?

Smart marketing, keep feeding the masses with something new and better, faster, every couple years... Its worked on the challenger so far.

I bought a 95 ZR1 to store, but I waited too long to sell, when the Z06 came out the ZR1 lost 40% of its value.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Porter67] #2233568
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
The price of these current hellcats and the future car are not that out of line, look back to the early vipers, the zr1 corvette at nearly 70k in the early 90-s.

But how are they selling now that the initial buzz has subsided? I checked the inventory yesterday of the huge Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealer near where I work and they're still sitting on four (4) 2016 'Cats, about the same # of 2016 SRTs, and even a couple of 2016 Scat Packs (with and without the Shaker option). All of their 2017s are SXTs and R/Ts; I'm presuming they're not bringing in any of the higher priced 2017 "hot rod" models since they haven't moved last year's.

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Thumper you dont have to defend your opinion, I lived through the 80's and 90's when Chrysler products were a total shame, I held my head down alot in those days. Guess what, I love my 72 Dart to man. The things things these new cars are capable of is down right impressive, and its ok to acknowledge that fact without criticizing the old iron too. The new cars WILL NEVER be s cool as the old stuff, but bada$$ it most certain is.


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Does anyone know how many hellcats been sold vs total producion?



Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By EV2Bird
The price of these current hellcats and the future car are not that out of line, look back to the early vipers, the zr1 corvette at nearly 70k in the early 90-s.

But how are they selling now that the initial buzz has subsided? I checked the inventory yesterday of the huge Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealer near where I work and they're still sitting on four (4) 2016 'Cats, about the same # of 2016 SRTs, and even a couple of 2016 Scat Packs (with and without the Shaker option). All of their 2017s are SXTs and R/Ts; I'm presuming they're not bringing in any of the higher priced 2017 "hot rod" models since they haven't moved last year's.

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They have sold everyone produced up until a few months ago.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: 72Swinger] #2233657
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If you want to hear some real bitching, go over to Hellcat.org. Some of those guys are fit to be tied. I guess I would be too if I was set to lose 20 large or more. And become a second class citizen behind these new models.

Of course much of that depends on how much these new models will go for and how many will be available.

Watching this play out is the next best thing to actually owning one.


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