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Re: New Battery [Re: 360view] #2218248
12/21/16 10:18 AM
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Re: New Battery [Re: 360view] #2218257
12/21/16 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By 360view

I have wondered
"how is the best way to test a battery to determine its health and expected remaining lifetime?"

There is a standard test to determine the "internal resistance" of a battery's guts.

You let a fully charged batery discharge two different currents through two known resistances then solve a equation for the unknown.

I have a 15 year old Snap On tester
that measures the voltage drop when a load of 130 amps is applied.
If i added extra resistance that would reduce the load to about 65 amps i could use the two tests to calculate the internal resistance by hand.

I have thought about buying this $160 tester:

https://www.amazon.com/Associated-Equipm...uct_top?ie=UTF8

It automates calculating the internal resistance
plus gives you other estimations.


I do this as part of my job.

Having a base line and knowing he design specifications is key to figuring out a batteries health and expected longevity.

Randomly testing a battery will tell pretty much nothing beyond is it bad right now.

Now if you were to test the battery new, then at every oil change you could log and track the data and come up with something useful.


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They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
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Re: New Battery [Re: YO7_A66] #2218270
12/21/16 11:31 AM
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I agree having baseline measurements is essential.

With so many batteries having less than 4 year real world lifetimes, baseline numbers must be of $ value.

I have long suggested that everyone set their tire pressure and then do a steady 60 mph fuel economy test over 60 miles on a mostly level interstate highway on a low wind day.

This baseline is a great help when something seems unhealthy with a vehicle,
despite the limitations of plus/minus 8% varying fuel heat content and decreasing tread depth giving mpg gains.

Here on Moparts there have been valuable past posts about baseline numbers of cylinder compression checks, and cylinder % leakdown.

"what is the base rate?"

Allegedly Nobel Prize winner Kahneman said that is the most important question to ask,
According the the new book:
The Undoing Project, by best selling author Michael Lewis

https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds/dp/0393254593

Re: New Battery [Re: YO7_A66] #2221011
12/26/16 10:17 AM
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You mentioned you're putting the battery in your basement. DO NOT put it on the concrete floor (in the basement or garage). This will kill a battery literally overnight.

Re: New Battery [Re: Quapman] #2221012
12/26/16 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Quapman
You mentioned you're putting the battery in your basement. DO NOT put it on the concrete floor (in the basement or garage). This will kill a battery literally overnight.


urban legend

myth

not correct

Quit telling this fib


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