Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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It's interesting, I see as-cast plenum/runner transition similarities on the TF that I found to be helpful on the mods I used to do to the Holley Street Dominators to pick them up fairly substantially. Also interesting, in my experience the longer the stroke the less helpful additional runner length is in terms of addition torque above the Peak Torque RPM, particularly when the port cross section is on the smallish side for the Displacement (as is usually the case with non MW BB mopars. The Victor looks like the runners are a little shorter and have a straighter path into the cylinder head. Maybe better at higher revs than the Trick Flow?
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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BACK FROM THE DEAD! I gotta break out the Makita in the next couple of weeks and prep an intake that's going on my 452 Victor-headed build (yeah, it's really dragged out). I have a Victor intake, but could also pick up a Trick Flow intake in time to complete the work if it would be better to spend my time on the newer design. Only going to have time to do one, so the next dyno session won't be an intake swap-fest like my last one... although I do have a bunch of carbs I want to check out. So, it's a "Last call!" of sorts before I dive in and starting making chips... Thanks - Brad EDIT: Even though I happen to own a Victor (2, actually), I have a "gut feeling" the Trick Flow might require less prep work due to some things I know about the Victor, but am not sure the end results would be much different.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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I just had Wilson work over my Trick Flow intake. I haven't seen it yet but they told me it is finished and is in the mail so maybe next week I'll be able to post some pictures. That way you can see what they did to it. He11 yeah! X2, interested on seeing that also since my engine has the TF manifold.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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I just had Wilson work over my Trick Flow intake. I haven't seen it yet but they told me it is finished and is in the mail so maybe next week I'll be able to post some pictures. That way you can see what they did to it. He11 yeah! Here you go
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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Maybe it's just the pics, but do they raise the floor of the plenum and then slope it down towards the runners? Kinda like a built in "turtle" for the plenum floor? Or does it just look like that b/c of the way the machining pattern looks?
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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Thanks Andy and Brad. After looking at the "before" pics again, I see what you're talking about Brad. Didn't notice it before.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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5-years later there should be some answers now to all the questions asked in this thread.
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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5-years later there should be some answers now to all the questions asked in this thread.
Tom So, 5 years later, the answers are: 1. PorkyPig is an a-hole 2. BradH is an idiot 3. Trick Flow is better out of the box 4. Both intakes are comparable if fully ported Tony Bischoff did an Engine Masters Mopar entry some years ago where I saw pics of the engine using both intakes at different times. I believe he went with the Edelbrock because Trick Flow wasn't paying sponsorship bonus for their intake, but Edelbrock was.
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1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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Well I would have thought more would have commented on this thread. For what it's worth I redid the plenum on my Victor and added a homemade pyramid on the bottom. Tom Intake Plenum
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Re: Trick Flow Track Heat 440 int vs Edelbrock Victor 440 int?
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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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