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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: wyoming]
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02/11/09 01:15 AM
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I don't think Paul page is that bad, I think he understands that Dunn makes the show, as far as sportsman racers and not have life interest stories, I could agree with you, but i think you have to look at who they are trying to attract, not really you or me, heck we are racers and fans, they are looking for new fans. The show is geared a lot more to gathering new fans than to giving tech info to hard core fans.
We're going to watch no matter what, and they know that. They could have a couple of monkeys commentating, and we'd still be there.... They're trying to make it entertaining to the fringe race fan. And really, this is good. The broader the base of interest in drag racing, the more sponsers are willing to pump their money into the sport and advertising.
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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02/11/09 01:46 AM
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point taken, but I don't think they're gaining more new than losing old. I could see your point better if the show had some
clear direction or even some focus. As it is now I can't imagine a person interested in cats, weddings, basketball, weight loss, untimely death, and racing all at the same time. I think the ship has lost its rudder in the storm and no one has bothered to check the compass, or fix the rudder.
As for us still watching it no matter, my feelings have gone from can't wait to see it, to I might record it and skim through it later. Providing of course it hasn't been put off for tee ball, ping pong, or curling.
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: bigdad]
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02/11/09 02:06 AM
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I think everyone will agree with your outlook but, doubtful ESPN cares what we think now, if the people that sponsor the program was contacted and told these things, they might have a different feeling about it
Never know, since Castrol is a big advertiser it might even be in the fine print that they have to visit with force , etc
Bring back TNN !
The sponsor of the show is NHRA. They pay ESPN to broadcast it and have to sell the ad spots themselves from what I understand. That is also the reason it gets bumped by other sports, ESPN owns those rights and sells the ad time so they look out for themselves first.
Oh and I agree the broadcast stinks. Did anyone notice the NASCAR commercial with GNR music during the broadcast, now thats a ad!
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: 2QUICK4U]
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02/11/09 07:23 AM
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ESPN is not a subsidiary of ABC as both are owned by Disney
my bad, I new they were in bed together and it was not cbs. Do the ESPN boys still play hockey during the week? I used to love stick time with those guys, lots of good players including John Saunders! He is a lot bigger in person then on camera!
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: Bill_LBSR]
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02/11/09 03:21 PM
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We're going to watch no matter what
Not really, I probably won't watch much this year if at all. Other people I know stopped watching once the countdown BS started.
I've decided I am just gonna build up my collection of Drag DVDs and when ever i need a "fix" i will pop one in. I can keep track of AJs progress right here. The only drag racing I would watch on TV is the Nopi events cause the babes are so f***ing hot! LOL
I will say this, the photographic coverge on ESPN can be amazing. However, i cant get a real sense of whats going on because they blab right up to when the tree starts flashing. The only time they shut up is for the 4 or 5 seconds that the run lasts. Then they go to commecial every other minute..OMG it sucks. 
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: chris3]
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02/11/09 09:19 PM
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I hear what you're saying, but I don't think they'll just pull the plug. They make too much money broadcasting the events to let it go, and ratings mean everything to a network. My intension is to find the right person to politely complain to, and pass along the feelings of at least some of their long term audience. Hopefully they'll respond in some small way to make the show more interesting and focused. I appreciate the fact that as car guys our tastes may be a little different than some of the viewers, but my ability to judge the quality of coverage on any sport is fair and even my wife has commented on how silly the show is now, so I feel I'm being fair in my assessment of the job ESPN is currently doing.
Please keep the comments coming, good, bad, or indifferent. Thanks guys, I will find the right guy to send to. As for what happens from there, who knows. I just love the sport, and watching it has always been something to look forward to, and I don't want it going in the tank if I can do something about it. It may be in vain, but at least I'll know I did something.
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: dthemi]
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02/13/09 04:59 PM
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My son plays ball with a boy whose Dad works for the production company in Charlotte responsible for ESPN Motorsports coverage. FWIW....regarding Paul Page....he said when Page was selected NONE of the staff broadcasters wanted the NHRA job including Page himself.  apparently Drag Racing is considered a Sideshow Act as far as the Charlotte based (deep in the Heart of Nascar) production company is concerned....I think they used to be (or may still be) called RPM motorsports. That's where you should petition  Also, fwiw, when you have otherwise "dead-Air" during the rainout of ANY Sports event...it's pretty dull....the TV equivalent of "pick a card, any card!" stalling for time. Think how the Advertisers feel!!
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: Streetwize]
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02/13/09 09:28 PM
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k, here are my comments. I don't know where to start.      That is what I feel like every time I watch this so called coverage of NHRA racing. 1.I can live with Paul Page, as long as they stop having a freaking commercial every 7 minutes, and yes I kept track one time. NO COMMERCIALS 2.Show more drag racing and talk about drag racing, not John Force and his f***** family. I was starting to like Force and then he had his wonderful TV show and now he is NHRA. Last time I checked, there are other sponsors that spend as much as Castrol does but you hardly ever see their cars. NO MORE FORCE (please retire) 3.More sportsman coverage. Enough said... MORE SPORTSMAN COVERAGE 4.Instead of taking the stupid Countdown idea from NASCAR, should have taken their coverage ideas. That is where the need of more drag racers on the show would come into play. NHRA EXECUTIVES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can keep going and going about this and the sport in general, but just like the economy and corporate america, it isn't going to change. Cory
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: Streetwize]
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02/13/09 09:44 PM
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My son plays ball with a boy whose Dad works for the production company in Charlotte responsible for ESPN Motorsports coverage.
FWIW....regarding Paul Page....he said when Page was selected NONE of the staff broadcasters wanted the NHRA job including Page himself.
apparently Drag Racing is considered a Sideshow Act as far as the Charlotte based (deep in the Heart of Nascar) production company is concerned....I think they used to be (or may still be) called RPM motorsports.
That's where you should petition
Also, fwiw, when you have otherwise "dead-Air" during the rainout of ANY Sports event...it's pretty dull....the TV equivalent of "pick a card, any card!" stalling for time. Think how the Advertisers feel!!
I'll send the same info to them and thanks.
As for no one wanting the job, I can't imagine NHRA paying a production company who considers them a side show, and Paul Page being the only one desperate enough to host the show. Let them post that job up at half salary and I bet there would be a number of guy's like Dunn lined up around the block. Page has little knowledge of the sport, or at least it appears that way, and is just plain annoying because of it. If RPM, ESPN, doesn't care about the quality of the show, and it's known in their circle NHRA should fire them. With 500 plus channels all hungry for programing, I KNOW for a fact there's better out there. Thanks for the comments!
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: dthemi]
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02/13/09 10:00 PM
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There are many out of work drivers that would be a better choice. I really doubt this will help or change anything.
NHRA is on the road to doom.Can't wait until they go to Englishtown and find very little done to make it safer.
If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL
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Re: A petition to ESPN (yes or no)
[Re: dthemi]
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02/13/09 10:07 PM
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Page is just a filler. I dont get all the animosity directed at him. With a DVR I FF through all the drama and 45 minutes dedicated to the Force battalion. So I miss alot of it, but hes not that bad.....
Like to see some of you grab a mic and turn the cameras on and make it through 1 segment without them having to cut away to a commercial as Dunn laughs his @%# off.....
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