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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2199987
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Come on thumper tell us the truth. Isn't it fun going faster than most of the guys NA. I know I love doing it and with a small block it's even more fun beer


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #2199993
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ok, well yes it did matter to me as well in fact, I wanted to run a 9 NA but that was a long way off, we all have our own goals and how to reach them, I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with using an adder to do it, couldn't give a toss of what others thought.


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Monte_Smith] #2199999
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
No one but you cares how fast you're going on motor. The only thing that matters is turning on the win light.

I flew the N/A flag for a long time in the local street car classes, but eventually got tired of getting outrun by cars w/ way less motor and a little nitrous. You know how easy it is to run in the 5s w/ a little mild small block mustang and a 250 shot? I have a friend w/ a REALLY mild 383 sbc in a full interior fox body mustang street car. On an untuned 200 shot it goes low 6.20s. When I say mild 383, I mean you could put it in your tow truck and let your grandma drive it.
This right here. As an example, Chad the guy that owns the black Buick has a 17 year old son just getting into racing. They built him a 72 Nova with a smallblock. Picked up the motor locally for a few grand. Really know nothing about it, other that it has a stock block with some aluminum heads. The Nova weighs around 3000lbs with the kid in it. Has 29.5s on leafs. On motor it goes 6.70s-6.80s and he can drive it to school or anywhere else. I dug around in my spares pile and we put a Big shot plate on it with a 175ish tune. We turn on the nitrous .4-.6 out with a timer and it goes 6.00 and he runs the 6.0 index class. Car is deadly consistent and kid is good on the tree. Always qualifies top of the ladder and he has won a couple races. Will win more once he learns to race the stripe better. When we spray it gate to gate it goes 5.70s with a nothing motor on a small shot


Saw a picture of the Nova the other day. VERY nice car.


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Come on thumper tell us the truth. Isn't it fun going faster than most of the guys NA. I know I love doing it and with a small block it's even more fun beer
Some people are wired different. If that gives YOU personal satisfaction, that's great......but means nothing to some of us.

That's like saying I have the fastest 72 green scamp with a 318, single exhaust and 14" wheels. You can narrow anything enough to seem impressive. To me, it's about the number. What does it RUN.

Regardless of combos, there is always somebody faster. When you talk about numbers, you can say, yeah that smallblock runs good N/A. That is until somebody mentions Laverne's N/A smallblock, which goes 5.0s. No matter his car is lighter, has better heads, whatever. Nobody cares about that. Whats the NUMBER

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For guys that do their own work its all about pride and hard work especially in NA builds. When I start using nitrous next year my goals will be to go MUCH faster. Not just a tenth or 2. LOL. Kinda like that low 9 second Challenger with 2 power adders. Big money build with 2 power adders equals deep sleep mod to me. Bring that baby inland some and lets see it make a few passes. LOL


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Monte_Smith] #2200011
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I agree with that. some are wired different. I want to see how fast I can go on motor and a friend of mine just wants to see how fast he can go with what ever power adder will get him there.

Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #2200025
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Let me throw a wrench in this thread.
You are obviously good with carbs. From what I've read, you not only make great power, but also get the driveabilty aspect worked out. You may feel that your combo is close to maxed out... Could be.
So why not continue honing your carb skills by blowing some air through it? Get a procharger or turbo and make some real power while EXPANDING your knowledge AND business?
This whole N2O talk from you just appears as if you are throwing in the towel, and I don't see how it will help your carb biz.
Just my biased view!


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #2200038
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It's kind of like my current situation...I have a lot of power (about 1100 hp), but my car is a tank (3900 lbs). Everyone seems to love the fact that my car still has all the factory interior, factory body except for the hood, etc., but when I lose to a car making 200 less horsepower than I have, no one cares. I can always say yeah, my car is 800 or 1000 lbs heavier than that one, but I lost and that's all that matters.

Having an 8 sec, nearly two ton car sounds awesome when talking about it on the internet, but getting outrun at the track by guys w/ a lot less power in 1/2 the car is all anyone sees.


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: pittsburghracer] #2200053
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Come on thumper tell us the truth. Isn't it fun going faster than most of the guys NA. I know I love doing it and with a small block it's even more fun beer


Yes sir it is and still beat two faster cars on the street..........TRENDZ, no air pumps for me, too hard to tune and the margin of error is less and I'm not throwing in the towel just yet..........

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What happend here?
This thread almost makes me think im logged in on moparts about 10years ago:D

I would go with Montes advice of putting spraybars in your present spacer.

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Originally Posted By TRENDZ
Let me throw a wrench in this thread.
You are obviously good with carbs. From what I've read, you not only make great power, but also get the driveabilty aspect worked out. You may feel that your combo is close to maxed out... Could be.
So why not continue honing your carb skills by blowing some air through it? Get a procharger or turbo and make some real power while EXPANDING your knowledge AND business?
This whole N2O talk from you just appears as if you are throwing in the towel, and I don't see how it will help your carb biz.
Just my biased view!
Why does it need to be anything about his business? Maybe he just wants a faster ride. Why does it have to be any more complicated than that?

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Not sure myself...........lol. I do get his points though about being able to do all carb stuff from blowers, turbos and nos however as someone recently told me; IN N OUT specializes in what? Burgers.......not burritos, steak shrimp etc. and we can all agree about how successful they are........... beer So burgers it is for now at least......... penguin


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Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #2200121
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart




however as someone recently told me; IN N OUT specializes in what? Burgers.......not burritos, steak shrimp etc. and we can all agree about how successful they are........... beer


So burgers it is for now at least......... penguin



So your staying NA. work laugh2

I myself can be impressed with just, what a car runs, reguardless of a power adder.

But I still respect the NA stuff when someone can go fast with it. I still carry the NA flag myself. Not quite bored yet.

Nitrous, not so impressed unless your running really fast.

A example given was a 17 year old with a nothing SB motor that could run 5.7,s being sprayed, engine so mild it could go into grampas pickup. See, is that impressive, not so much. Heck, they don't even know what kind of cam is in it.

So easy, a Caveman can do it. Like Shania Twain said, That don't impress me much. stirthepot laugh2

Sense of humor nitrous guys. bow

Re: TIRED OF BEING SLOOOOOWWWWW..................... [Re: Monte_Smith] #2200126
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By TRENDZ
Let me throw a wrench in this thread.
You are obviously good with carbs. From what I've read, you not only make great power, but also get the driveabilty aspect worked out. You may feel that your combo is close to maxed out... Could be.
So why not continue honing your carb skills by blowing some air through it? Get a procharger or turbo and make some real power while EXPANDING your knowledge AND business?
This whole N2O talk from you just appears as if you are throwing in the towel, and I don't see how it will help your carb biz.
Just my biased view!
Why does it need to be anything about his business? Maybe he just wants a faster ride. Why does it have to be any more complicated than that?


It's a lot easier to afford a faster ride when you have more business. Learning more about your craft doesn't hurt a thing. Just my observance.


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So my Gary Williams nitrous carb is junk now??

Hey Thump, us nitrous guys run carbs too. Shelf your NA carb and work on a nitrous carb so you can show folsom you've done that

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Sell the 470 and build a Gen III, run 8's.
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IF my car was legal for 9.99 and quicker... AND IF I didn't think spraying would just be a new way for me to hurt my junk... I'd probably spray the p!ss outta it.

A street-racer friend of mine from years ago who ran a bottle on his car said he would LOVE to see the look on peoples' faces if I raised the hood on mine and there was some hi-zoot direct-port N2O injection system staring back at 'em. devil

Of course, he also said they'd laugh their a$$es off if the car didn't lay down some serious #s with that sort of hardware. whistling

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OOOOOHH Thumper's at it again. He's effectively touched a debated nerve on N/A vs NOS. Sounds like a dreaded Automatic vs Stick debate.LOL
I wanna see who gives in. Carry on.

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I know I will have two 8 second dusters next year and then I will crack open the bottle on one of them. Then it gets worth while.


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Originally Posted By SpareParts
So my Gary Williams nitrous carb is junk now??

Hey Thump, us nitrous guys run carbs too. Shelf your NA carb and work on a nitrous carb so you can show folsom you've done that



140+ hp to the tires on two kits after I "fixed" a name brand carb..........need I say more and send it to me and see for yourself............

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