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More help please, 81-93 Frame rail splash shield ID #2189672
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So below is a picture of the passenger side frame rail splash shields. I THOUGHT there was only one like the first and 2nd pictures but then last weekend at a local junkyard I pulled off the following splash shield shown in the 3rd picture from an 86 Dodge truck.

Can anyone confirm either of these 2 pass side frame rail splash shields in THEIR truck? Trying to figure out why the difference. Year? 2wd/4wd?

DODGE TRUCK 81-93 PASS SPLASH.jpg

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Re: More help please, 81-93 Frame rail splash shield ID [Re: 71TA] #2189677
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You can see the pass side frame rail in this picture from a 93 truck and it looks like the first and 2nd picture above. I circled in red some of the distinguishing features to identify it as like the 1st splash shield in the picture above. Again this was on an Ebay listing for a 93 truck. The last year of that body style.

DODGE TRUCK 93 PASS SIDE SPLASH 02.jpg
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On the drivers side frame rail splash shields again I THOUGHT there was only one like the first but I see where one lised as NOS and a very similar shape is listed for an 84-91.

Again, can anyone confirm either of these 2 drivers side frame rail splash shields in their truck?

DODGE TRUCK 81-93 DRIVERS SPLASH.jpg

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Lastly, the LMC online catalog shows a THIS combination of frame rail splash shields. They show the shorter passenger side splash like the one I got from an 86 junkyard truck. Then they also show the driver side splash that was listed online as an NOS. The online one has a Mopar part number that I can't read. I ordered one so hopefully I'll have a part number.

OH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MOPAR DODGE TRUCK PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS THAT SHOW THE SPLASH SHIELDS AND THE PART NUMBERS?

LMC CATALOG 81-91 SPLASH SET.jpg

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Give me a chance to check my trucks this weekend. Got a 77w200, 80rc, 85 rc, and 92 Cummins. Might have some others around


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That would be COOL!

I know they are hard to take good pictures of but if you could snap some cell phone pics (if thats easier) just so I can see enough to identify the splash shield and find out which ones go with what years/models. I can send you my cell number in a private message.


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I've also got a few to contribute from. Need daylight for photos though.

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Thanks!

I've also Google everywhere and thought I'd find some old truck service/parts manuals online but no luck.


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The only input I can give you is that the driver side (picture on the right) with the hole in it is probably for a 4x4 truck. 4x4 trucks have the steering column on the outside of the frame, and the large hole is where the steering shaft would pass through the splash shield.

I've never seen a short passenger side splash shield. Don't see how that would work unless the inner fender had a different shape at that back corner. Gene

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Originally Posted By poorboy
The only input I can give you is that the driver side (picture on the right) with the hole in it is probably for a 4x4 truck. 4x4 trucks have the steering column on the outside of the frame, and the large hole is where the steering shaft would pass through the splash shield.

I've never seen a short passenger side splash shield. Don't see how that would work unless the inner fender had a different shape at that back corner. Gene


Good info. I'll have to look for that now. I thought there may be a 2wd/4wd difference.


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Might be a difference between 2wd vs 4wd but, the steering box is outboard of the frame in both.

Pics might be iffy, no camera on my phone. Wife's yes but she's working.


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I seem to have noticed 2 sizes on the passenger side when I was junkyarding in Louisiana years ago.

Getting all sorts of numbers in the books:
Left/drivers 1990-1= 55022667 ; 04215665*
Left/drivers 1992-3= 55254624
Right/pass side 1990-1991= 55022666 ; 04215530; 04215536*
Right/ pass side1992-3= 55254625

Numbers at end with asterisk are also listed in 88-89 parts book, under fender, section 23A-3000
Other numbers from 1990-1993 parts book, section 23a-4300

Pics are also online still
http://www.moparpartsoverstock.com/showA..._driveLine=9726

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Thanks!

I Googled the hell outta those numbers and looks like there are 3 sets of frame splash shields. 82-89, 90-91 and 92-93.

DRIVERS SIDE (LEFT)
4215565 fits 82-89, 55022667 fits 90-91, 55254625 fits 92-93

PASS SIDE (RIGHT)
4215536 fits 82-89, 55022666 fits 90-91, 55254624 fits 92-93

I found I had an old 77 Dodge Truck Service Manual on CD. Doesn't show anything as far as these splash shields are concerned. It DID show that diesel trucks had a ton of extra insulation inside the fenders, on the engine side of the firewall and behind the kickpanels.


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Little update...

85 ramcharger has no shields.

92 D250 has a very long shield on the passenger side, goes from core support almost to the cab mount. Drivers side is short, core support to just aft of the control arm. It has a hole for the steering shaft

77W20 . Long shield on both sides, maybe not quite as long as the 92 passenger. Drivers side torn off where steering shaft passes through but clips present for more shield. Has an extra hole near the front for power steering lines.

80 ramcharger long shields both sides.

Noted that the 92 has a different brake line routing than the older trucks, might explain the short shield. Suspect this change happened in 1990 or 91. My 89 had the previous line routing.


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Sent an email, kinda lengthy for here.
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Thanks for the email! It definitely confirmed some of the applications.

You shared pictures of an 83, 87 and a 93 truck. I saw the 2 different passenger side splash shields with one odd difference. The larger scallop on the RH side of the shorter pass side splash shown in my picture above is on an 86 & 87 truck but not on an 83 truck. That scallop is right where the pass side exhaust manifold dump is. Since the scallop is there on the later models they probably learned to clearance that out so it didn't burn I'm assuming.

Also I see the longer passengers side splash used on your 93 truck.

I also bought an NOS 55022667 drivers side splash and an 55022666 passengers side splash so at LEAST we'll now have pictures of exactly what those parts ARE. Shocking in this day with all this technology parts aren't documented better. I LIKE those appliance repair websites with GREAT PICTURES AND PART NUMBERS of every piece of every appliance.


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