Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2183912
10/27/16 05:34 PM
10/27/16 05:34 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003 Salem
Grizzly
Moparts Proctologist
|
Moparts Proctologist
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003
Salem
|
Hemi, 545rfe, 20's and 3.92's as well. Very nice combination. You want to tow better, put it in 3rd and back off the speed. I have 4.10's in a 360 Mag and 285 rubber (nearly the same as 20's) and they do that truck no favors for towing. It will tow in OD but its' a struggle. If it had 3.55's I could put it in 3rd and leave it there and it would tow better.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: lunacy]
#2184200
10/27/16 10:57 PM
10/27/16 10:57 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070 Mo.
racerx
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070
Mo.
|
I have a hemi with 20" wheels and 3.92 gears (stock) it tows just fine. 4.10s would be fine, probably tow better. I can run 80mph at 2300rpm, plenty of room for more gear. What engine/transmission do you have?
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2184220
10/27/16 11:13 PM
10/27/16 11:13 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070 Mo.
racerx
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070
Mo.
|
I have 4.10's in a 360 Mag and 285 rubber (nearly the same as 20's) and they do that truck no favors for towing. It will tow in OD but its' a struggle. If it had 3.55's I could put it in 3rd and leave it there and it would tow better. twocents
My truck has the 3.55 gear and I tow with the od off, seem's like a set of the 4.10's would let me able too tow in od and have a comparable gear say 3.73.Is my thinking off?
Last edited by racerx; 10/27/16 11:14 PM.
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2184251
10/27/16 11:54 PM
10/27/16 11:54 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003 Salem
Grizzly
Moparts Proctologist
|
Moparts Proctologist
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003
Salem
|
How heavy are you towing, Racerx? Which engine do you have?
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2184690
10/28/16 05:08 PM
10/28/16 05:08 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 435 Austin, TX
lunacy
mopar
|
mopar
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 435
Austin, TX
|
I have a hemi with 20" wheels and 3.92 gears (stock) it tows just fine. 4.10s would be fine, probably tow better. I can run 80mph at 2300rpm, plenty of room for more gear. What engine/transmission do you have? Hemi, 545rfe, 20's and 3.92's stock size 275/60-20 tires. I had another Hemi truck, an 05 regular cab, put 17" wheels with 275/60-17s on it. That woke it up some, 3" less diameter in the tires. The lighter wheels made it stop better as well.
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2185032
10/29/16 12:29 AM
10/29/16 12:29 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003 Salem
Grizzly
Moparts Proctologist
|
Moparts Proctologist
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003
Salem
|
Okay.
I'll have to elaborate on truck #2 I listed above (the one with 4.10's). It tows in overdrive just fine up to 5000 pounds. Anything over 5000 and bad aero (like a holiday trailer) it struggles.
Similar load to what you are doing and it moved this car just fine. 60, 65mph, 1800 to 1900rpm.
Last edited by Grizzly; 10/29/16 12:35 AM.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: earlymopar]
#2185210
10/29/16 12:10 PM
10/29/16 12:10 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,497 North East USA
BIGGERED
Reasonable Title
|
Reasonable Title
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,497
North East USA
|
This is a great question that I hope someone with actual experience in the swap can respond to. I have a 1500 with 20" wheels, 3.0 diesel and 3.55 rear end ratio and have been considering this same swap to 4.10s. It tows good now and I know it will tow better but having some specific feedback from others who have done the swap would be great. I'd also like to hear about the cost the dealer charged for this. I plan to buy my own gear set. I don't mean to steal your post only to add that others have the same questions relating to this same set-up.
- EM I'm pretty sure you do not want to go 4.10 on your ecodiesel Below is a link to a pioneering ecodiesel owner who unfortunately is no longer with us. My understanding is the Bosch high pressure pump is living at the hairy edge in stock form as its driven off one of the exhaust cams. Bosch personnel recommended not exceeding 3,200 rpm ever, which appears to be relatively impractical driving my 2015 ecodiesel crew cab with 3.55 gearing. Link to ecodiesel cam phase failure RIP Shawn Capson. Red
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2298950
05/04/17 03:44 PM
05/04/17 03:44 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada
RUNCHARGER
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
|
I have to eat my words on my 15 Rammit. It has the high gears, 6 speed and around town it is a bit gutless. I didn't think it had the guts to tow a trailer but I was wrong. We have a hill heading out of my old town that is 8% and runs for around 10 miles. I loaded this mother down with my 4000lb Stealth in the back of the 26 ft trailer and around 2500lbs in the front of the trailer and the back of the truck. She buzzed up that hill just fine at 50MPH. She would have pulled up there faster but I kept the revs to around 3500 and she held it just fine. And guess what else? On the 500 mile trip she got 9MPG overall, which is maybe 1 to 2 MPG less than my old 05 Cummins would have done. I don't think you need a gear change with your ecodiesel but that's just my opinion. My truck is not optioned optimally to pull but it does it just fine. My truck came with 17's and I switched to the 20's tire circumference is 5% larger than the 17's.
Last edited by RUNCHARGER; 05/04/17 03:49 PM.
Sheldon
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: upnover]
#2299241
05/04/17 11:16 PM
05/04/17 11:16 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada
RUNCHARGER
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
|
Mine has 3.55. As I said it is totally the non optimal setup for towing and it kicked azz anyway. 1500, six speed, 3.55, 20 inch wheels and pulling about 11,000lbs over a 10 mile long 8 percent grade. I can't call it my girly truck anymore.
Last edited by RUNCHARGER; 05/04/17 11:19 PM.
Sheldon
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2299289
05/05/17 12:40 AM
05/05/17 12:40 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003 Salem
Grizzly
Moparts Proctologist
|
Moparts Proctologist
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003
Salem
|
I figured you would come around and like your new truck sometime. Little update on my '01 360 Mag above: Towed a '98 QC 4x4 (5500lbs) on a heavier trailer (2500lbs) and started the trip at 10.5mpg and by the time I got home (350 miles) the average wound up at 13.0mpg 45 to 55mph in third on all the mean hills and stayed in top gear on the level at 60mph. Nope, still don't miss my old '02 Cummins.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: upnover]
#2299378
05/05/17 08:03 AM
05/05/17 08:03 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070 Mo.
racerx
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,070
Mo.
|
factory 20" tires on the 4x4's are 33" tall, the 275/60/20 thats why most come with a 3.9 gear due to the 33" height. 3.55s are too high for 33's. the newer trucks with the 6 or 8 speed trannies can get away with the higher gears Any ideal what transmission in the 2000-03 rams?46r or what tranny?
|
|
|
Re: 4.10's in a ram 1500 with the 20" wheels
[Re: racerx]
#2300557
05/07/17 09:21 AM
05/07/17 09:21 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,846 poplar bluff mo.
toplescuda
I Whine
|
I Whine
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,846
poplar bluff mo.
|
Our 09 ram r/t. (They only come with 4.10 gears) 5 speed Auto. I towed Mt open 23 steel floor trailer 71 charger down to ar. Other then bumps never it was back there and I never turned the overdrive off 75-80 most the way. Was just like normal driving (under 2k on the tach) truck also had 20" wheels
1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
|
|
|
|
|