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New best for the Gen 3 hemi #2181696
10/24/16 08:15 PM
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I posted this in my thread in the Gen 3 section but I know it is not heavily traveled so I'll share here as well.

Had our final test and tune of the year, track was very green, traction wasn't great and we were limited to 1/8th mile due to water seeping up through the tracks top end but I did manage to go: 6.422 @ 106.27 with a mediocre 1.438 60 foot. Based on past runs I've made that should run complete to about 10.11@132 in the 1/4.

Very happy with my first season with the Gen 3, it hasn't missed a beat in over 150 runs down the track. Just change the oil and keep on trucking.

No plans to change anything with the engine this winter, going to focus on lightening the car up and making it work better. Goal is to take at least 100# out of it. Might see a 9 second time slip in the spring. thumbs

Last edited by Triple Threat; 10/24/16 08:16 PM.

-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181757
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Nice run. Gotta love the simplicity of the Gen 3 motors. Too bad performance pieces are priced like gold.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181760
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What have you done to the motor?


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181765
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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181844
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Very cool AND impressive..............


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181849
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MPH seems light for both the 1/8th ET and the 1/4 probably almost 3mph....What do the plugs look like?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: sgcuda] #2181851
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Nice run. Gotta love the simplicity of the Gen 3 motors. Too bad performance pieces are priced like gold.


Not really, the stroker kits are very comparable in price. You can also use lots of STOCK parts. Stock lifters, stock rockers, stock heads. If someone was just getting into the mopar game it would be very very smart to start with a G3. The cost to switch from a big block or small block platform isn't cheap but the entry cost into a G3 isn't so bad.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181855
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Switching up from a small block would be the best alternative since the bellhousing patterns are the same. Things like electric water pump assemblies and intake manifolds get really expensive for a G3. Just finding a usable core engine is pretty difficult and expensive.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: sgcuda] #2181877
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Nice job!!


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: sgcuda] #2181892
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Switching up from a small block would be the best alternative since the bellhousing patterns are the same. Things like electric water pump assemblies and intake manifolds get really expensive for a G3. Just finding a usable core engine is pretty difficult and expensive.
All you need it a decent 05-08 Car block and front timing cover. The rest is pieces you would buy for any other build, yes the intakes and electric water pumps are ridiculous. There is a complete 05 Jeep 5.7 with a rod knock but ran for $300 locally.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2181915
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Good seeing you Dustin!


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: HOTMOPR] #2181990
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Nice job Dustin!! boogie

Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182032
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Congrats on the new best! That thing is running good!


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182082
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Thanks everyone for the comments.

The build details can be found here:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1970437

As for the cost I covered that too, its no worse than anything else.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2053593

I'm happy with the change over from my old small blocks. It's amazing more people aren't jumping on board as they are a great platform in the 400-700 horse range.

As for the "low" MPH, that just means the car is working decently well at the power level it makes.


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182087
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It's working out great for me because the guys that are selling to make the switch over over are selling stuff for pennies on the dollar. Lots of great deals for guys with money in hand when the deals come along. I'm to old to travel that road so I will be forced to run the OLD junk. Lol


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182098
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So how much HP can a stock 5.7 block take? I'm looking at boosting one.

Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182127
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Seems 1000hp isn't asking to much, up around 12-1300hp billet main caps help.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182206
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Nice new best the Gen 3 hemi looks cool too. you should attach some pictures of the motor. thumbs

Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182245
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If you are only gonna make 500 or less the hemi is very expensive way to do it. Over that it starts to gain a lot of apeal. There are no cheap headers, no cheap intakes, no cheap ignition systems, no cheap used performance parts (except heads because they are all top notch), no cheap motot mounts, no cheap stroker kits (I can get a SCAT SB 408 for under $2000) cheapest gen III is over $3000. I have seen too many stock well cared for 5.7s spit rods out the side for no reason so I won't trust em with any performance build.


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Re: New best for the Gen 3 hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #2182575
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Congrats Dustin! I subscribed to your build threads, great info, I'd love to build one of these G3 Hemi's.


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