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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2171328
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What happened here, this was just getting good?

I ran a stock re ring 360 long block with a 509 hydro cam in high school but it was still super slow 13.6 and it would spin to 7k. But broke a rod that same summer but I do think the tach was correct.

I dont think a stock based 340 would ever hit 8500 even one time in nut.

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: cudaman1969] #2171405
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
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What's a safe rpm for stock crank, stock pan as in a stocker engine. I will use the limited collapsing lifters and stocker cam. Guy I bought the heads, intake and cam from said on kill he went 8500. I don't want to be knocking the bearings out, comments?

I seriously doubt any SB LA Mopar out there will pull in gear with a hydrauic roller cam and hydraulidc roller lifter and matching valve springs up to or much past 7000 RPM, let alone 8500 in any gear confused Maybe in nuetral or park work whistlingshruggy
I was told by a older guy, drinking Cutty Sark whiskey straight out of a quart bottle at 1:00 PM in the afternoon at the Colorado river back in 1965, that his N/A 392 Hemi motor in his 21 ft. flat bottom V drive Mandella wood hull would peg his 8500 RPM tach shock I bet him it wouldn't do that so he offer me a ride in it the next morning when he was sober. It would peg the electric tach at 8500 RPM as soon as he went WOT, but it was showing 4300 RPM crusing at around 35 MPH warming up the motor before he hit it hard work He had a Vertex magneto on that motor and he should have had a 4 cyl electric tach for it, not a V8 tach. It was reading twice as much RPM when the motor was running, not the true cranksaft RPM it should have been reading. Most of the other, better, high end boats back then had Jones Motorola mechanical tachs driven off of the top of the V drives so they measured the true crankshaft revolutions, not the propeller revolutions.
My message is it is easy to be mislead on many things, especaiily automotive racing parts and storys shruggy
On your deal I would shift it when the motor quits pulling hard in second gear, don't look at the tach before shifting, listen and feel the motor quit pulling first and then look at the tach to see where it quit pulling hard twocents scope Shift it 200 to 300 RPM before it quits pulling hard up Don't over revved it tsk

I'll ask him again next time we talk, might have heard him wrong, he was world champion with a Duster out of Balt. about 10 years back. Funny you mention it, I've never watched a tach, except to launch.

Just checked the rpm calculator and it had to be 7500 (I am hard of hearing) or even 6500. I feel better knowing I don't have to turn it that high, never ran a small block before. Will be a learning experience for sure.

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2171484
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Not many guys are pushing the stock block. Too many say it won't take anything past 600hp.
That may be the case but we ran stock block over 10 years and several of those years we leaned on the nitrous pretty hard pushing car 138-40 in 1/8th. We are retiring it now and building a r3 with w9rp's for the duster. I will however be putting a new set of Pistons in it and have it fresh just in case the new build has any problems.

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: Dustedu] #2173097
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Originally Posted By Dustedu
don't post much anymore, but

Not many guys are pushing the stock block. Too many say it won't take anything past 600hp.
That may be the case but we ran stock block over 10 years and several of those years we leaned on the nitrous pretty hard pushing car 138-40 in 1/8th. We are retiring it now and building a r3 with w9rp's for the duster. I will however be putting a new set of Pistons in it and have it fresh just in case the new build has any problems.


thats getting after it

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: Dustedu] #2177797
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Originally Posted By Dustedu
don't post much anymore, but

Not many guys are pushing the stock block. Too many say it won't take anything past 600hp.
That may be the case but we ran stock block over 10 years and several of those years we leaned on the nitrous pretty hard pushing car 138-40 in 1/8th. We are retiring it now and building a r3 with w9rp's for the duster. I will however be putting a new set of Pistons in it and have it fresh just in case the new build has any problems.


What heads and compression with that mph?

My half filled, non studded, 360 base 4" stroke motor with 360-2 CNCS is currently running a .63 jet through a cheater on pump gas. Would loveeee to build an r3 for it or one of the G3 hemi's I have sitting on the garage floor, but im tight on cash and want to throw a much bigger hit at the stock block...Hoping it will hold, but I need to build a 727 or glide first and get a proper converter, my 904 has a vert that is total crap

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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2177957
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All I have to say is LOL at the "600hp" limit.

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: mshred] #2178050
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Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By Dustedu
don't post much anymore, but

Not many guys are pushing the stock block. Too many say it won't take anything past 600hp.
That may be the case but we ran stock block over 10 years and several of those years we leaned on the nitrous pretty hard pushing car 138-40 in 1/8th. We are retiring it now and building a r3 with w9rp's for the duster. I will however be putting a new set of Pistons in it and have it fresh just in case the new build has any problems.


What heads and compression with that mph?

My half filled, non studded, 360 base 4" stroke motor with 360-2 CNCS is currently running a .63 jet through a cheater on pump gas. Would loveeee to build an r3 for it or one of the G3 hemi's I have sitting on the garage floor, but im tight on cash and want to throw a much bigger hit at the stock block...Hoping it will hold, but I need to build a 727 or glide first and get a proper converter, my 904 has a vert that is total crap


YOU'RE BACK!!! You just missed my SBM vs LSX thread

Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: SpareParts] #2179230
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Just curious reading this thread what did Glidden use back in the day for a block with his Arrow?
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2179243
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This...Nothing Like A Stock Block.

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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2185711
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2185715
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Well all I can say is my car is heavy all steal all glass stock suspension small tire stock block and it's a bad Mother and no Trans brake I claim to have the baddest stock around 😏 But I also have one of the baddest engine builders around. Extreme race engines out of NY

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600 lol u need a lot more than 600 to push my car down that 1/4.

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Originally Posted By one bad fish
Well all I can say is my car is heavy all steal all glass stock suspension small tire stock block and it's a bad Mother and no Trans brake I claim to have the baddest stock around 😏 But I also have one of the baddest engine builders around. Extreme race engines out of NY


Just curious what year your block is? I always hear mixed things about which blocks are stronger between earlier and later year blocks

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Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By one bad fish
Well all I can say is my car is heavy all steal all glass stock suspension small tire stock block and it's a bad Mother and no Trans brake I claim to have the baddest stock around 😏 But I also have one of the baddest engine builders around. Extreme race engines out of NY


Just curious what year your block is? I always hear mixed things about which blocks are stronger between earlier and later year blocks
. 1970 block

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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2186472
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Nice steel hood bro

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Originally Posted By SpareParts
Nice steel hood bro
U KNOW WHAT I MEAN

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No... my all steel car has a metal hood and everything else lol

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No... my all steel car has a metal hood and everything else lol
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard? [Re: redruM] #2187357
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Just wondering, what improvements have you guys ACTUALLY seen from half fill, meaning you guys pushing big power, have you seen 340 blocks before and after half fills with noticeably less block distortion?

The reason why I ask is because my engine is almost finished and my machinist was trying to talk me out of the hardback the other day. I know that he knows his stuff, but he is a huge Windsor guy with a whole bunch of NHRA records but not really a hard core mopar guy. He was telling me that with the meat on the 69 340 block I have, he thought I'd be OK at the power levels I was looking to hit (650- 700fwhp max with the procharger) without using the block fill. He didn't think it would be helping to much with bore distortion and he said that with the .030 overbore the block was still pretty strong. I told him I still wanted to go ahead with it just for the peace of mind if nothing else.

I know guys here have seen the before and after effects of filling the block though, do you guys think on a stronger LA block like a 60's 340 that it would be helpful to do for a big power/lower RPM boosted setup?

Currently I have main studs, hughes girdle, factory main caps, Eagle H beam rods and a factory forged crank.

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