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Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? #217020
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Hello, recently I put my dakota back to stock. Now I have all these parta (stall converter, ported edelbrock heads, crane valve train, etc.) just laying around. Well, a friend of mine has a 410 or 416 stroker in his dakota and just turned over 10.80s in the quarter with his, so I would like to do a stroker project. I was loking at the 426 small block stroker kit for the Magnum block but I wanted to see if that's really the best way to go about it. All my stuff is Magnum whereas his stuff is LA. I would prefer to stay Magnum as I'm already half way there. So what's the word on the 426 kit?

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Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: dezduster] #217022
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A guy that i know has a 87 dakota mag motor that was running 11.10s with a eddy head 360.He had said all he did to the engine was put in one of hughes stroker 426 kits and went 10.40s.I believe he might have changed camshaft also.

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I think it would be simpler to do a 4" stroke engine. More cubic inches need more head and even with the heads you have a 4" stroke engine will easily max those heads out.

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Just don't plan to spray it...


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Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Adobedude] #217025
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Why not spray it?

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I think it would be simpler to do a 4" stroke engine. More cubic inches need more head and even with the heads you have a 4" stroke engine will easily max those heads out.


You need to look at piston speed & rod ratio too , We have run 3.79 & 4" cranks in our W5 LA rig , I think the 3.79 over all is the better stroke , But we like to turn it up a bit to make power

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Hello, recently I put my dakota back to stock. Now I have all these parta (stall converter, ported edelbrock heads, crane valve train, etc.) just laying around. Well, a friend of mine has a 410 or 416 stroker in his dakota and just turned over 10.80s in the quarter with his, so I would like to do a stroker project. I was loking at the 426 small block stroker kit for the Magnum block but I wanted to see if that's really the best way to go about it. All my stuff is Magnum whereas his stuff is LA. I would prefer to stay Magnum as I'm already half way there. So what's the word on the 426 kit?




His truck wouldn't happen to be red would it? About a 95 model? Goes by Copperdodge? lol. I was glad to see him bust off some 10 sec passes. I had been telling him he was only some cal-tracs and a set of slicks away. His first pass was a 10.9x @ 122 mph and he was grinning from ear to ear.A few passes later went a 10.88. Not too bad for driving it there, swapping tires, and then driving it back home again. He's driven it to tracks that were 3 hours away each way. Thats been a good motor for both of us.

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Hello, recently I put my dakota back to stock. Now I have all these parta (stall converter, ported edelbrock heads, crane valve train, etc.) just laying around. Well, a friend of mine has a 410 or 416 stroker in his dakota and just turned over 10.80s in the quarter with his, so I would like to do a stroker project. I was loking at the 426 small block stroker kit for the Magnum block but I wanted to see if that's really the best way to go about it. All my stuff is Magnum whereas his stuff is LA. I would prefer to stay Magnum as I'm already half way there. So what's the word on the 426 kit?




His truck wouldn't happen to be red would it? About a 95 model? Goes by Copperdodge? lol. I was glad to see him bust off some 10 sec passes. I had been telling him he was only some cal-tracs and a set of slicks away. His first pass was a 10.9x @ 122 mph and he was grinning from ear to ear.A few passes later went a 10.88. Not too bad for driving it there, swapping tires, and then driving it back home again. He's driven it to tracks that were 3 hours away each way. Thats been a good motor for both of us.




Yessir, that would be the one. I would say it's an inspirational one for me. I was looking at 87-95 dakotas this past weekend and found a '88 V8 RC up by Bristol, TN. Just wish I had the $1,000 on hand to get it.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Otherlane] #217029
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Why not spray it?




According to Dave Hughes, it was designed to be run NA, The problem with the kit is the pistons. The 4.180" stroke doesn't leave you much room for the ring pack. They are in there pretty tight and the ring lands are pretty thin. Add increased chamber pressures from n2o and or boost and you'll snap em off.
I was looking into the kit when it first came out as werea lot guys on the Dakota R/T forums, but the inability to safely spray the thing turned a lot of us off.


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If I'm clicking off 10 second passes N/A, nitrous is unnecessary. 10 second passes beats out all but 3-4 R/T guys, all of which are running some sort of power adder. But when this motor gets done, it's going into a gen I or II. Weight advantage and 5 lug hubs FTW!

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I'm at 7000' + DA, I'll need to spray to even see 11's....LOL

But a 426 in a little Gen I or II RC?

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Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Adobedude] #217032
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Ok learned something new.thanks for the info

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I was just thinking, (I would like to get a few more opinions as well) although I don't really have any need or desire to use nitrous/boost, what about using a shorter rod to give more room for the ring pack? Even with the larger stroke in the 426 kit, the rod ratio isn't that bad compaired to many Ford and Chevy SB strokers.

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Im really surprised your looking here, when I was looking into the 426 kit, most info came from the dak crowd.

The hughes 426 kit was one of the best machined out of the box kits ive ever gotten A+.

Now im on a 440 small block stroker and that should be a bit mo-better if the heads are right.

From my research and I cant say ive driven one yet, but many say going over the 4 inch mark is like driving a whole different beast as far as strokers go, most this is from the dakota guys as well.

But as far as the hughes kit fitment...it was right on.

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Im really surprised your looking here, when I was looking into the 426 kit, most info came from the dak crowd.

The hughes 426 kit was one of the best machined out of the box kits ive ever gotten A+.

Now im on a 440 small block stroker and that should be a bit mo-better if the heads are right.

From my research and I cant say ive driven one yet, but many say going over the 4 inch mark is like driving a whole different beast as far as strokers go, most this is from the dakota guys as well.

But as far as the hughes kit fitment...it was right on.




just a side note to this. those kits contain K-1 Crankshaft and Rods. yet another testimonial on how good their stuff is for the money. we're glad to be a warehouse distributor for companies like that.

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I am surprised Kevin @ Hughes has'nt chimed in.

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Im really surprised your looking here, when I was looking into the 426 kit, most info came from the dak crowd.

The hughes 426 kit was one of the best machined out of the box kits ive ever gotten A+.

Now im on a 440 small block stroker and that should be a bit mo-better if the heads are right.

From my research and I cant say ive driven one yet, but many say going over the 4 inch mark is like driving a whole different beast as far as strokers go, most this is from the dakota guys as well.

But as far as the hughes kit fitment...it was right on.


You have to deal with a plethora of stupid before you can get any good off Dakota forums. This forum is great for information on this subject (engine building/strokers/generally going really fast). Plus, members here are going faster and going faster for longer then most Dakota guys are right now.

I'm not completely set on a 426 stroker either. I would like to see other options too.

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Im really surprised your looking here, when I was looking into the 426 kit, most info came from the dak crowd.

The hughes 426 kit was one of the best machined out of the box kits ive ever gotten A+.

Now im on a 440 small block stroker and that should be a bit mo-better if the heads are right.

From my research and I cant say ive driven one yet, but many say going over the 4 inch mark is like driving a whole different beast as far as strokers go, most this is from the dakota guys as well.

But as far as the hughes kit fitment...it was right on.


You have to deal with a plethora of stupid before you can get any good off Dakota forums. This forum is great for information on this subject (engine building/strokers/generally going really fast). Plus, members here are going faster and going faster for longer then most Dakota guys are right now.

I'm not completely set on a 426 stroker either. I would like to see other options too.




Are you restricted to using the magnum block, if not, use an r3 block, and build a 440, or use the r3 block build a 440, and use magnum R/T aluminum heads and go that rout.

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Last year at MATs, I red lighted in the 2nd round against a 426 stroked convertible Cuda.. His dial-in was mid 10's..

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