Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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Can these be used WITHOUT a pinion snubber and still control windup? I have 456/457 SS springs right now and my truck sourced Dana doesn't have a snubber provision. 4° nose down and it's still hitting the transmission tunnel at launch.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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GY3. I would experiment with some front clamps to stiffen and removal of some rear clamps to see how it relieves the hitting which is not such a good thing. Sometimes even with a snubber, a rear will smack the tunnel pretty hard and start tearing it apart.
Another trick if you do insist on a snubber with your situation with no snubber provision is to fabricate a HD plate that mounts underneath the floor with a snubber attached to it pointing downward to snatch the rising rear.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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In all fairness to TRI CITY. Some of the most scienced out leaf spring cars on the planet are NHRA Stockers. 99% of them use Cal Tracs. The launcher springs were better than SS springs but that is old tech. Is this car destined to be a street strip car? The launchers will make it ride like a lumber wagon.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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GY3.
What type front spring eye bushings do you have? Are they tight or have a little play to allow swing?
In all respect, your car is scootin'. The rubber bushings that come with the SS springs. I looked at a friend's Cal-Tracs last night and they come with solid aluminum replacement bushings. Not sure how that affects street manners?
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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GY3. I would experiment with some front clamps to stiffen and removal of some rear clamps to see how it relieves the hitting which is not such a good thing. Sometimes even with a snubber, a rear will smack the tunnel pretty hard and start tearing it apart.
Another trick if you do insist on a snubber with your situation with no snubber provision is to fabricate a HD plate that mounts underneath the floor with a snubber attached to it pointing downward to snatch the rising rear. I experimented with the clamps and that got me from 1.59 to 1.54. I thought about doing a snubber pointing down from the floor, too, using an upper control arm bumper that I removed.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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Keep your rear shackle spring eye bushings as rubber or at best, polyurethane. Change the fronts to solid aluminum with a metal bushing sleeve. Tighten only just beyond snug to allow for some swinging and that pup should plant them good. In most cases including mine, I have noticed nothing in street driving as far as ride quality or clacking noises. In some remote cases, you will hear a small clack in take off, but that is common with a solid front bushing. There is no play and the energy finds its most straightest line of application, the rear tires. Yes, to answer the addish of old school vs new, cal's are the new kid on the block when it comes to every hundredth in serious Super stock competition, but for most street mild and border line wild combo's, the old US made, Canada made SS's or Launchers worked darn well enough to surprise some heads. While the cal's allow for some easy on track tuning and weight loss, we all have bared witness to some deep nine second stockers on SS's even on the street here.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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10/09/16 01:38 PM
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I looked at a friend's Cal-Tracs last night and they come with solid aluminum replacement bushings. Not sure how that affects street manners? I doesn't.
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Re: Tri City Comp Launchers
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Sorry, should have clarified.
Caltracs DO come with aluminum bushings.
Caltracs DO NOT effect street driving in a negative way, at least in my experience. In fact, the ride quality in my Duster was a little better when I replaced my S/S springs with Caltracs.
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