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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: gamagoat6x6]
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02/08/09 09:42 PM
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Well, here`s a little tidbit for y`all right out of the FSM for my truck:
(7) Using a new pressure relief valve gasket,
install the relief valve plug. Tighten the plug to 20
N·m (15 ft. lbs.) torque.
(8) Install oil filter that has been filled with oil.
Is that not from a pump repair section? I believe they want you to do it that way so the crank driven pump does not lose its prime. What does the book state in the maintence section on filter change??
Filter is after the pump. Why would it matter?
BINGO: The filter is after the pump BUT before the oil gets to the bearings from the pump, the filter must first fill so the pump can build pressure to send the oil on to the rest of the engine. 
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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02/09/09 03:35 PM
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WOW,thanks for all the replys. My intention was not to start such a heated debate as to "yes do it","no don't do it" (because I have used both methods),it was to see if I'm the only one who does.Well it turns out I'm not,but that doesnt mean installing the filter dry is incorrect either(we did it all the time at a dealership I once worked at).It all boils down to whatever works for you.Now we can move on to more important things such as  ,D. 
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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02/09/09 03:39 PM
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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy
that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: GTX MATT]
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02/09/09 04:37 PM
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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire
I do the same thing, I try to wet the filter though. I dont have a 440 anymore but will soon. I fill the filter on the 273 3/4, still pull the coil and turn it over though.
Why in the world do so many people pull the coil wire and crank the engine???? Talk about engine damage, start the darn thing and get that oil pump working asap, plenty of oil left on the bearings. Mopar RB engins have been around since 1959, you think the dealers ever did this in the shop? Have you heard of a bearing failure epidemic?
Better question here is lets talk about when we change the oil, do it on a hot engine, let it drain, then refill it and start it within an hour. Thats how a repair shop does it. Don't wait overnight or longer to refill and start it. And no cold oil changes.
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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02/09/09 04:57 PM
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My intention was not to start such a heated debate.
Oh it'll get worse, just wait until some of the really earth shattering topics come up. You ain't seen nothing yet 
yep , post a picture of a red dot , start a poll , is it RED or green ? 30% of the respondents will say its green they tell you are a moron for thinking it's not ...
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/09/09 05:05 PM
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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy
that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...
and you post why?
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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02/09/09 05:07 PM
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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy
that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...
and you post why?
The same reason as YOU , I like to hear myself talk even though no one else is listening ????
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: NANKET]
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02/09/09 05:07 PM
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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire
I do the same thing, I try to wet the filter though. I dont have a 440 anymore but will soon. I fill the filter on the 273 3/4, still pull the coil and turn it over though.
Why in the world do so many people pull the coil wire and crank the engine???? Talk about engine damage, start the darn thing and get that oil pump working asap, plenty of oil left on the bearings. Mopar RB engins have been around since 1959, you think the dealers ever did this in the shop? Have you heard of a bearing failure epidemic?
Better question here is lets talk about when we change the oil, do it on a hot engine, let it drain, then refill it and start it within an hour. Thats how a repair shop does it. Don't wait overnight or longer to refill and start it. And no cold oil changes.
Add to this most reputable shops fill the filter before installing too.
As for spinning the engine before firing it is a recommended practice in the engine book to do this after changing the oil after winter lay up as a type of prelube but to do so with the spark plugs removed so that there is very little pressure exerted on the crankshaft bearings and the engine spins faster and freer.
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing?
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/09/09 05:10 PM
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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy
that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...
and you post why?
The same reason as YOU , I like to hear myself talk even though no one else is listening ????
You have a point---see someone WAS listening! Hope I didn't disturb the peace!
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& prime our engines
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