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408ci W2 cleaned up #2141695
08/27/16 02:00 AM
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Finally had some time to get the 408 cleaned up. Man I love wizards metal polish!

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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141700
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That looks very nice! What type of polish is that? Who sells it? Matt


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: Wicked49670dart] #2141710
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I bought it at O'Reilly's. I see Walmart and even Amazon sell it now. I found it at the Minnesota State Fair about 10 years ago - the guy was shining up aluminum pop cans with it. I bough a tin and cleaned an old set of aluminum rims - couldn't believe how nice they came out. One word of caution - don't smell it, you'll want to eat it smile

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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141720
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Looks very nice! drool


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141724
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Are all of your electronics under the dash?
Can u post pics, and how you routed wiring to there?
Looks awesome!!

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141783
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Very Nice! thumbs


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141792
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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: wkroncke17] #2141842
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Thanks everyone!

sgcuda - it definitely is hard to look at in the sun!

wkroncke17 - you are correct. I moved the bulkhead and relay inside and all the electronics are mounted on the passenger side under the dash. I closed up any hole in the firewall not being used. I extended the wires for the headlights, horn and turn signals and hid them under the driver's side frame rail. It definitely cleaned things up. I'll post some more pics of it later. Here's what it looked like when I bought it:

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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2141843
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A collage of whims
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Looks very clean & uncluttered under there, good job.

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142140
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Nice job, looks fantastic

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142142
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Humpty, whats the engine/trans/third member specs please

Im building a 408 with closed chamber W2's solid roller, 11.25 CR, EFI, 727 with a 3.73 Dana S-Trac

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: crash520] #2142201
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Thanks topside and crash520!

crash520 - The engine is the same as you're building except the CR is 11.8, 950 cfm quick fuel on gas, Indy single plane cut down 1" (no hood scoop!), Harland Sharp full roller rockers. It made 595hp / 525tq. The trans is a low gear 904 with an A&A brake, 5500 8" PTC converter, rear is an 8 3/4 with a spool and 4:10 gears. EFI is on the list for me. Which system are you going with?

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: wkroncke17] #2142206
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wkroncke17 - I forgot to mention I mounted the alternator low and ran the alternator wires on the passenger side along the frame rail too. Here are some pictures.

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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: wkroncke17] #2142211
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Here's what it looks like under the dash on the passenger side:

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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142215
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Awesome, you did alot of what I did. My MS3 Efi ECU is even in exact same spot as your MSD. I went a little bit further and filled in the wiper motor indent and mounted a 2001 Neon wiper motor behind the dash. Dont miss the factory bulkhead one bit, not to mention it was probably a fire waiting to happen.


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142249
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Very clean job Humpty. Coil overs on the front?

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: 72Swinger] #2142257
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Thanks 72Swinger. Hiding the wiper motor is a great idea! Would you choose the MS3 again?

justinp61 - Thanks as well. You got it right - coil overs on the front. The bolts in the shock tower are for the HemiDenny conversion kit.

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142268
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How do you like the HD kit? How much travel?

Thanks

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142270
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With my Gen III Hemi probably but the throttle body I have is not available so maybe Holley is better since it supports DBW throttle bodies. I think for someone new to EFI Holley is great for their support network, ie its dumbed down for us carb guys lol.


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142306
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Looks real nice!

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142327
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Originally Posted By humpty
Thanks topside and crash520!

crash520 - The engine is the same as you're building except the CR is 11.8, 950 cfm quick fuel on gas, Indy single plane cut down 1" (no hood scoop!), Harland Sharp full roller rockers. It made 595hp / 525tq. The trans is a low gear 904 with an A&A brake, 5500 8" PTC converter, rear is an 8 3/4 with a spool and 4:10 gears. EFI is on the list for me. Which system are you going with?


My trans is all A&A, manual obviously, no internal gear change, cam is 254/262@50 108 with 630 valve lift on 1.5 HS rollers, 2.08/1.6. Eddy Victor manifold with TTI 1 7/8 headers, still have not sorted a converter at this point but I'm thinking 3500-4000 stall.

As its mostly a street driven car with the weekend run down the strip, I ended up with a FAST XFI TBI system. I believe direct port injection is better but I chose TBI for the only reason, if I went port injection, I would want to install EGT sensors to make sure I didnt have a cylinder leaning out due to a [censored] injector under high RPM's, I didnt want to do this hence the TBI, the FAST XFI has a couple of programmable tunes so I can have a street tune and a strip tune. Most all of them seem to have almost all the same features now so it depends on what your likes are, Im happy with my choice for now, its not installed nor is the engine built yet but hopefully soon.

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142332
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Your Indy manifold has the direct port bosses ready to machine into them so no welding plugs onto runners so thats a plus

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: justinp61] #2142348
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Originally Posted By justinp61
How do you like the HD kit? How much travel?

Thanks


About 4" though with some work I believe I can get another inch. That's this winter's project.

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142357
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W2 EFI with Indy intake with 1" removed to fit under the stock hood. My wiring isn't near as fancy though.



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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: Bad340fish] #2142366
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
W2 EFI with Indy intake with 1" removed to fit under the stock hood. My wiring isn't near as fancy though.






I like it! Which system?

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142374
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Megasquirt 3 with expansion(MS3X) for sequential fuel and spark. I ran ignition only for about half of last year and moved onto the EFI side in April this year, the W2 motor is new and has only been running for the last month.


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: crash520] #2142836
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Sounds like a good system. Good luck with your build!

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: Bad340fish] #2142839
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Megasquirt 3 with expansion(MS3X) for sequential fuel and spark. I ran ignition only for about half of last year and moved onto the EFI side in April this year, the W2 motor is new and has only been running for the last month.


How is it performing and what was the learning curve like? From what I can tell, the Megasquirt systems are not for the beginner.

Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142842
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Quote:
Here's what it looked like when I bought it:


Major improvement, looks very professional!


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Re: 408ci W2 cleaned up [Re: humpty] #2142882
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Originally Posted By humpty
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Megasquirt 3 with expansion(MS3X) for sequential fuel and spark. I ran ignition only for about half of last year and moved onto the EFI side in April this year, the W2 motor is new and has only been running for the last month.


How is it performing and what was the learning curve like? From what I can tell, the Megasquirt systems are not for the beginner.


Its is performing well, I am still learning but it runs and drives great. I have been struggling with a little bit in the 60ft at the track but I think I have that figured out for the next trip.

It wasn't easy but certainly was not hard. The hardest part is the wiring, and its mainly just time. There is a fair amount of research and custom crap involved but a lot of that has to do with having a small block mopar haha. The software is pretty easy to understand and work with and it can "learn" very well also but still requires some manual input to help it along. I have really enjoyed it.

To help understand it and to save money I assembled an MS3 with expansion kit I got from DIYAUTOTUNE.COM but if I were to do it again I would buy the MS3PRO from them and skip the ECU assembly part.


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