Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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The photo above is the us cartools , I have one in my dart , I haven't bolted it to the floor yet ...
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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See the hole in the top of the loop, thats for bolting it to the floor, which means drilling a hole in the floor. I guess you could leave that out, but I don't think it would be very strong that way which would defeat the propose. Honestly, it would be safer bolted to the floor, but maybe just 2% safer? It looks pretty solid & all you have to do is make sure the driveshaft doesn't hook onto some pothole when the front u-joint breaks. The loop doesn't have to do anything except keep the front of the driveshaft off the ground, so I think you could leave that floor pan bolt out IMO.
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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The photo above is the us cartools , I have one in my dart , I haven't bolted it to the floor yet ... I think I'm going to omit it bolting to the floor.
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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The photo above is the us cartools , I have one in my dart , I haven't bolted it to the floor yet ... I think I'm going to omit it bolting to the floor. I put one in my Belvedere, didn't know I was supposed to bolt the loop to the floor. Probably will not bother now.
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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See the hole in the top of the loop, thats for bolting it to the floor, which means drilling a hole in the floor. I guess you could leave that out, but I don't think it would be very strong that way which would defeat the propose. Honestly, it would be safer bolted to the floor, but maybe just 2% safer? It looks pretty solid & all you have to do is make sure the driveshaft doesn't hook onto some pothole when the front u-joint breaks. The loop doesn't have to do anything except keep the front of the driveshaft off the ground, so I think you could leave that floor pan bolt out IMO. Not true. The driveshaft will try to swing all over the place and beat the crap out of the floor. I personally would not use that loop without bolting it to the floor. I think that much length, unsupported on one end, would be very susceptible to bending.
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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See the hole in the top of the loop, thats for bolting it to the floor, which means drilling a hole in the floor. I guess you could leave that out, but I don't think it would be very strong that way which would defeat the propose. Honestly, it would be safer bolted to the floor, but maybe just 2% safer? It looks pretty solid & all you have to do is make sure the driveshaft doesn't hook onto some pothole when the front u-joint breaks. The loop doesn't have to do anything except keep the front of the driveshaft off the ground, so I think you could leave that floor pan bolt out IMO. Not true. The driveshaft will try to swing all over the place and beat the crap out of the floor. I personally would not use that loop without bolting it to the floor. I think that much length, unsupported on one end, would be very susceptible to bending. I have to admit you make a good point forphorty. I'm not sure about the driveshaft bending, but I'm pretty sure you're right and I'm underestimating the force of driveshaft coming loose. I have personally broken 2 front u-joints + once broke front & rear at the same time and the driveshaft shot out sideways. All of those were stupid "neutral drops" when I was 16-17 & not at the track. From a stop, it's not that bad....but if you had one let go on a 3rd-4th shift at 120mph....that might be bad.
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440+6, NOS, 4-spd, SS springs
'96 Mustang GT convt. street car
'04 4.6 SOHC, NOS, auto, lowered
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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I don't get it. If your "racing" the car it is not original. So with all the other modifications, why not drill one little hole? If your not racing it there is no need for the loop. 
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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As both ads state "100% Bolt in with NO HOLES OR WELDING!!!" But yet they put the hole in the loop . . . Can it be installed with no holes or welding? Yep. Should it be installed without bolting the loop to the floor? IMO probably not. I've installed 4 of them in cars and I took the time to weld a 3/8" nut to the interior side of the driveshaft tunnel on all of them - makes for easier install/removal later.
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Re: Drive shaft loop that uses stock attachment points?
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See the hole in the top of the loop, thats for bolting it to the floor, which means drilling a hole in the floor. I guess you could leave that out, but I don't think it would be very strong that way which would defeat the propose. Honestly, it would be safer bolted to the floor, but maybe just 2% safer? It looks pretty solid & all you have to do is make sure the driveshaft doesn't hook onto some pothole when the front u-joint breaks. The loop doesn't have to do anything except keep the front of the driveshaft off the ground, so I think you could leave that floor pan bolt out IMO. Not true. The driveshaft will try to swing all over the place and beat the crap out of the floor. I personally would not use that loop without bolting it to the floor. I think that much length, unsupported on one end, would be very susceptible to bending. I have to admit you make a good point forphorty. I'm not sure about the driveshaft bending, but I'm pretty sure you're right and I'm underestimating the force of driveshaft coming loose. I have personally broken 2 front u-joints + once broke front & rear at the same time and the driveshaft shot out sideways. All of those were stupid "neutral drops" when I was 16-17 & not at the track. From a stop, it's not that bad....but if you had one let go on a 3rd-4th shift at 120mph....that might be bad. 
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