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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2099992
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They did you a favor. Shiny is mo better.


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2099996
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Originally Posted By 1967dartgt
Was a mix up and they got done in brite not black like they were supposed to be. I guess it's why you write it down and not do it verbally.




They look all wrong!
Tell you what. Send them to me (i'll pay the shipping cost, and order another set!
Nice headers BTW
Not a stock front k correct?
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Re: Headers came back [Re: dare_dude] #2099997
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Originally Posted By dare_dude
They look good! I agree with Mike. You send them back who knows? I am getting ready to do something on mine also. Will be open
to who does best job and price?


I used NitroPlate in Nashville Tn for the headers on my Dart, they still look great after seven years.

http://nitroplate.com/

Re: Headers came back [Re: justinp61] #2100006
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Wish someone would screw my headers up like that!!

Very nice, Might not be exactly what you wanted but Sweet nun the less! I vote ...run them. up


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100261
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Drivers side, it is a tube k frame with coil overs. I guess I will run them and see how they hold up, maybe do them black next time motor is out for a freshen up.


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100418
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Those look great on both visual and power potential.............. thumbs


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100426
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My shiny headers from QC still look like new minus a few scuffs I inflicted. They are on year 4.
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Originally Posted By dvw
My shiny headers from QC still look like new minus a few scuffs I inflicted. They are on year 4.
Doug


Just worried about my nitrous habbit and what it does to coatings. I had QC's black on my last set hold up, just a bent mess now, so I assume these will be no different.


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100526
06/29/16 01:15 PM
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How much hotter is the cyl when you spray... cant
be that much hotter so they should hold up fine..
we tested a set of headers a group had coated and
went up to 1500*.. they didnt normally run that high
but it was on the dyno.... I built them then they
wanted to get them coated... no issues
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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100580
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Black or silver............a clean nitrous tune WILL discolor them at the first bend and make them dingy right there. It's GONNA happen, don't care who coats them, or what color they are

Re: Headers came back [Re: Monte_Smith] #2100627
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Black or silver............a clean nitrous tune WILL discolor them at the first bend and make them dingy right there. It's GONNA happen, don't care who coats them, or what color they are


Monte... whats the EGT on a good tune
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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100630
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Really nice, but show us what they look like with about 50 passes on them. Mine didn't hold up. Went to ceramic black. Held up better, but still got a little chalky around the first bends off the ports.


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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Black or silver............a clean nitrous tune WILL discolor them at the first bend and make them dingy right there. It's GONNA happen, don't care who coats them, or what color they are


Monte... whats the EGT on a good tune
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You can't tune a gas motor by EGT numbers. It's just a number. I only use them to see if all the holes are lit. I have cars that run anywhere from 1200-1600 and everywhere in between.

As to coating holding up on a nitrous car, depends on who coats them. Before we went to stainless headers, Nitro-plate did ours and they held up VERY well. The bends would get dingy in one pass, but overall it held up well. Kind of like a piston coating on a nitrous car. There isn't one made I can't burn off, except for hard anodizing.......LOL!!!

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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100957
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Not to hijack your thread Brad, Monte what do you mean you can't tune a gas engine by EGT numbers? I thought wideband was the way to go? I hope I didn't drop all this cash to monitor something that is pointless.

Please clarify what you mean. Thanks.


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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100976
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And what is this black stuff? Or we talking some sort of coating that they are doing in chrome now? Trying to visualize this.

Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2100977
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Is it ceramachrome? If so you can have black done over the top.Also coated on 5 he inside or just spray where you can see?

Re: Headers came back [Re: Monte_Smith] #2101041
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Black or silver............a clean nitrous tune WILL discolor them at the first bend and make them dingy right there. It's GONNA happen, don't care who coats them, or what color they are
up So will a blown application. Pic = ceramic coated in black. As for EGT's, I can tell you from experience that at 2000*, your rug catches on fire. eek laugh

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Re: Headers came back [Re: racerx] #2101055
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This is the black coating
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Re: Headers came back [Re: 1967dartgt] #2101067
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I built my headers out of 16 g 321 ss. Really needed no coating. Someone sold me on the idea of keeping under hood temps lower with the cer black. Said it was good for 2000 degrees.
First time on the trans brake cooked the finish. After that, anywhere you touched them, the coating would come off like dust.
My single egt probe would get to approx 1700 on the brake.

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Re: Headers came back [Re: DemonDust] #2101071
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Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Not to hijack your thread Brad, Monte what do you mean you can't tune a gas engine by EGT numbers? I thought wideband was the way to go? I hope I didn't drop all this cash to monitor something that is pointless.


Wideband sensors measure o2 in the tailpipe, not exhaust gas temp. You want to tune an engine based on o2/air fuel ratio, not egt.

The only major exceptions to this are diesels and airplane engines, that are not tuned to a/f ratio.


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