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car sits sideways???? #209703 01/31/09 06:59 PM 01/31/09 06:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal C cmcgee123 OP enthusiast
cmcgee123 OP enthusiast C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal	looking at my car after i took it out to irwindale on thursday and it looked like it was sitting sideways. so i checked tire pressure set fronts to 40 psi and rears to 13 even accross the car. the front right is 1 1/8" lower than front left and the rear right is 2" lower than rear left. the car has a lader bar and coilover rear suspension and stock torsions up front. it launches straight but i was just wondering if the preload on my right rear tire could be causing this???? the car hasnt been on the scales yet would it be worth the time and money to get this done? and would the car be able to sit level all around if i have the car scalled? nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: cmcgee123] #209704 01/31/09 07:05 PM 01/31/09 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	probably needs the torsion bars adjusted. but it never hurts to scale the car and see where it is.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: cmcgee123] #209705 01/31/09 07:05 PM 01/31/09 07:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: looking at my car after i took it out to irwindale on thursday and it looked like it was sitting sideways. so i checked tire pressure set fronts to 40 psi and rears to 13 even accross the car. the front right is 1 1/8" lower than front left and the rear right is 2" lower than rear left. the car has a lader bar and coilover rear suspension and stock torsions up front. it launches straight but i was just wondering if the preload on my right rear tire could be causing this???? the car hasnt been on the scales yet would it be worth the time and money to get this done? and would the car be able to sit level all around if i have the car scalled? You would be better off having it scaled, it can be level but not always(to get a good balance), once its scaled set in the pre-load(with you in the seat)

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: Quicktree] #209706 01/31/09 07:18 PM 01/31/09 07:18 PM
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Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	I wouldn't mess with the preload if the car leaves straight.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: Quicktree] #209707 01/31/09 07:25 PM 01/31/09 07:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I wouldn't mess with the preload if the car leaves straight. If he changes the height.... it will change the pre-load

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #209708 01/31/09 07:28 PM 01/31/09 07:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,196 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,196 Park Forest, IL	If it was level before you went to the track make sure to check the K-frame where the right side torsion bar mounts. I have seen many of them break the mount out of the K-frame and then the car will drop and cannot be leveled. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: slantzilla] #209709 01/31/09 10:08 PM 01/31/09 10:08 PM
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SKR8PN master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,030 The Grand State of Confusion-O...	Quote: If it was level before you went to the track make sure to check the K-frame where the right side torsion bar mounts. I have seen many of them break the mount out of the K-frame and then the car will drop and cannot be leveled. Here in Ohio(rust)they twist the REAR socket out of the crossmember, NOT out of the K-frame... Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: slantzilla] #209710 01/31/09 10:32 PM 01/31/09 10:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal C cmcgee123 OP enthusiast
cmcgee123 OP enthusiast C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal	im pretty sure it was level before i went to the track. a quick glance underneath didnt show anything. but when i turned the right side torsion to even the car out, the left side also raised so i tried to lower the left side and that didnt really change much. and yes i bounced the front end after every adjustment. nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: cmcgee123] #209711 01/31/09 10:56 PM 01/31/09 10:56 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,248 Bend,OR USA	I've had the same thing on my Duster, stock front end and laddeer bars and coil overs. I had added enough preload to caused that I ended up removing the ladder bars and readjusted the bars back to nuetral and that leveled the car The car had always gone straight until I tried to make it better by adding preload with the bars I was hoping to make the 60 ft. times better, it didn't Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: Cab_Burge] #209712 01/31/09 11:13 PM 01/31/09 11:13 PM
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Irun5snd8th master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,864 IN	Mine sits that way and all four tires are scaled and goes straight. Never really cared to figure it out cause it works. AFCO, Rons Fuel Injection sponsored Dodge Challenger Mention Street Lethal Motorsports

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: Irun5snd8th] #209713 01/31/09 11:20 PM 01/31/09 11:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal C cmcgee123 OP enthusiast
cmcgee123 OP enthusiast C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal	guess i will just have to take it to the scales and see what happens... but it leaves straight so i really shouldn't care. but [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] soon as i noticed it every time i look at the car it seems to be leaning more and more its like the little dent as soon as you see it. it becomes a big deal. nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: cmcgee123] #209714 02/01/09 01:00 AM 02/01/09 01:00 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	If you think its preload pull one of the ladder bar front bolts out and then set it on the ground and see if sits level. If its preload the car will now sit correct. if its still uneven its probably one of the front torsion bars. No matter what you should get the car to sit correctly with the one ladder bar disconected then put the bars on and scale it. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: bigtimeauto] #209715 02/01/09 02:45 AM 02/01/09 02:45 AM
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SealockRacing mopar Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 602 Alexandria, VA	pretty sure its in the suspension, my dad had his setup to almost twist i guess, and level out...makes sense to me?

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: SealockRacing] #209716 02/01/09 07:31 AM 02/01/09 07:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	I agree if it was level before the race it sounds like something may have broke. I would be checking everything.

Re: car sits sideways???? [Re: cmcgee123] #209717 02/01/09 02:58 PM 02/01/09 02:58 PM
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W.I.N. Racing top fuel Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,115 Byron, NY	What rear axle do you have, - 8 3/4? I've Seen twisted housings cause similar condition '01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 '01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust, '05 Dodge Magnum R/T - Too Much to list '60 Willys CJ5 '01 International LPX - Project,DT466, Allison '64 Plymouth Valiant, Inj 528 Hemi, 2spd

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