Milan track prep, well no prep
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06/12/16 10:59 AM
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For the past 2 years I have fought to get down the track at Milan. Same car 4 years, in the past I've even won there. The Detroit Dragway Reunion was an all time LOW. Tested Friday night working on the shocks. No hero 60 foot, but got down to a string of 1.29. Race day Saturday time trials 1.292 right lane, 1.278 left lane. Waiting from 12:30 last TT I watch the other classes. ABSOLUTELY NO PREP. No spray, drag, nothing. First round I can see it's getting bald. I run the right lane 1.418. Same time of the day a 1.29. 9.399@145.5. Set to run 9.23@145. Lucky I get the win. Go back loosen the rebound at both ends and set the dial off by .05 to a 9.28. The result 1.37/9.36. Now the car has been to Columbus, Bowling Green, and Norwalk recently. Gets down all of them. This was an advertised "Big Meet" I know my car is sensitive to track conditions. But let me Quote a former track champ pitted next to me (big tire tire Nova). "I'm running the car on a 2 barrel with a 100lbs in the trunk. It still won't get down the track so I'll spray at the finish and take my chances at the stripe". Ok my rant is over. Doug
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/12/16 11:13 AM
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I heard from a good Friend that it cost 1000 dollars to spray a track with traction compound. Low car counts with the 50% chance of rain forecasts are really eating into what little chance there is of making a small profit at some of these tracks. The traction at Keystone has been terrific as always and several races have been called after 2 time trials and the rain moved in. We receive rain-out passes and the track only pays out for employee hours, track prep costs, and every other costs related to running a track. Tracks are taking a real beating.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/12/16 12:00 PM
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Milan has been especially poor IMO...The only time I have witnessed prep was at the heads up events, or after an oil down at the No ET events...and at that, it doesn't make it very far past the line.
To makes things better, they usually make me run in the street tire lane with my Hoosier DR's...2 lines isn't exactly tread...
Maybe they should just advertise as a No Prep track...it's popular nowadays...
Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...
71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
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06/12/16 12:34 PM
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I think a lot of tracks are trying to get away with as little to no prep at all I agree I was at national trails the same weekend as Doug my car finally got traction.where the time before I was at trails I couldn't get any. Thanks Jeff without that event they wouldn't have done as much as they did. Here I was thinking something was came loose on my car
71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/12/16 01:33 PM
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Watched two heads up races there last year, took quite awhile even when they did prep/touch up the track. Our local "small" track does a good job of prepping the track for special events, but i'm not sure what prep is for bracket races.
72 Plymouth Roadrunner 11.08@123.25
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: 1980volare]
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06/12/16 03:35 PM
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A perfect example of how hard track prep can be in this CRAZY weather pattern can be found on Dragraceresults. The NHRA race in Englishtown may not even be worth watching later today with the times I have been seeing so far. 126 plus degree track temps.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
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06/13/16 12:05 AM
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Hopefully track prep gets better at all the tracks
71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
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06/13/16 12:36 AM
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I ran against Doug in that race where he spun and told him I was avoiding the right lane after I spun and went from a normal 1.53 60' to a 1.84 in my time trial, I felt like John Force pedaling it. Now mind you in my first round of sportsman I spun in the left lane putting a 1.69 60' on the board. So both lanes had some issues
416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out. 11.06 open headers----so far!!
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/13/16 09:31 AM
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I have known bill the owner for a long time and when I said something to him at one time about the lack of traction there he told me that it was one of the best hooking tracks in the country and people need to learn how to prep the chassis for it.!!!!???
JAKES AUTOMOTIVE
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
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06/13/16 10:11 AM
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I have known bill the owner for a long time and when I said something to him at one time about the lack of traction there he told me that it was one of the best hooking tracks in the country and people need to learn how to prep the chassis for it.!!!!??? LOL... I'm sorry but there IS no amount of chassis prep you can do with a high powered car when there is no prep! You either have to retard the hell out of the engine(15 degrees)in first and second gear, or unplug two cylinders.
If it ain't broke fix it anyway!
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/13/16 11:07 AM
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Lucky to be on the other side of the state and near US131. Best racing surface I have ever been on, and prep is always solid.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.56 at 104.17
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Re: Milan track prep, well no prep
[Re: dvw]
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06/13/16 12:14 PM
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I'm ready to start making the 2 1/2 hr trip to 131. Doug I prefer to drive to Norwalk...I've been to 131 about 10 times.. it is the smoothest track I have even been on... but on one Friday TT it was the ONLY track I couldnt get traction on.. it was fine on Sat and Sun.. but that Friday I put the car back in the trailer before I crashed it.. but I prefer to call Norwalk my home track... TT nights at Milan are a joke.. my brother almost took the tree down with his altered.. and drug a cone all the way down the track.. they werent to happy... but we loaded up after that try.. that was his third try.. I dont know what a drum of VHT cost but tracks think its GOLD.. hell even Lapeer has better traction than Milan on TT nights.. if I had any issues at Lapeer they would bend over backwards to correct it... granted they only spray out about 80'-100'.. the bad part of Lapeer is the shut down area.. its rough and bounchy
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