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The 'Surge' (not the military type) #2072981
05/13/16 11:41 PM
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Good Day All

The '71 Bee has been in long storage. Got it out a couple of week ago, dusted it off, changed the oil and fuel filter, checked everything, went for a cruise. Everything worked like it should (except for the cruise control). Roasted the tired a couple of times filled the gas (93 octane). Had an exhaust leak which ended up being the choke thermostat pocket gasket. Unfortunately, when troubleshooting this, I ended up removing the intake. That ended up with the carb coming off to replace the base gasket. Since then I've got it out when weather permits and all was well.

Today, I took it of to my alignment guy. On the way home it stalled in traffic. Restarted okay, but the acceleration is not smooth. Once out of town the hammer dropped. When the speedo reached 50, the motor started to surge like you were stepping on the gas, then removing your foot, and stepping on it again. It did not stall.

Once home I checked the timing, fiddled with the carb as per the shop manual, all to to avail. The car starts fine, drops to curb idle when you tap the gas. When you take it out there is a 'dead-spot' when you accelerate (approx at 1/3 throttle). and it will start to surge when you reach 50 mph.

The Bee is a 383 automatic with a Carter AVS.

Any thoughts?

Re: The 'Surge' (not the military type) [Re: Omni Source 1] #2072990
05/13/16 11:48 PM
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You might check the filter and iirc AVS's might have a small screen filter just inside the fuel inlet nut. You might also hook a can of gas to the pump inlet to elim a clogged sock. I'd open up the carb & blast out the bowl with brake kleen.


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Re: The 'Surge' (not the military type) [Re: RapidRobert] #2073197
05/14/16 12:33 PM
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Good Morning

Thank You Rapid Robert for the tip on the inlet screen. I didn't know that existed.

Anyway, the screen and the filter are both clean, so I'm doubtful is any debris is in the carb.

The fuel tank is below 1/2 full, so I'm going to remove the pick-up assembly and check the filter in there. If that is also clean, what about a fuel pump malfunction?

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Re: The 'Surge' (not the military type) [Re: Omni Source 1] #2073215
05/14/16 01:08 PM
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messing with the pickup is a royal pain. you might hook a can of gas to the pump inlet & see what develops. that takes anything rearward from the pump out of the picture without having to mess with it


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Re: The 'Surge' (not the military type) [Re: Omni Source 1] #2073221
05/14/16 01:16 PM
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If your filters are new you might check the fuel pump pressure. Sounds like your running out of gas. It also doesn't take much to plug up the small orfices in a carb.


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Re: The 'Surge' (not the military type) [Re: Omni Source 1] #2074797
05/16/16 10:56 PM
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Good Evening All
The 'surge' as been purged!
The culprit was the fuel pump. Replaced the rubber line from the pump to the steel frame line for good measure. The bee now runs like a scalded cat. Just need to tweak a off idle bog with a little more carb fiddling.

Thanks to all who took the time to respond.

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