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experimental 426 max wedge block? #2065198
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I have a block with casting number 2406730. According to everything I find that is a 426 wedge/max wedge 1963-1965.

The weird part is the bore measures out at 4.180 not 4.250. I used a dial caliper to measure it. I honed it with a flex hone too check the cylinders for cracks. It has a small lip from wear, and this is where I measured it.
It is not sleeved and has the original bevel around the top of the cylinders for assembly

The second weird thing is that the last 3 digits of the casting number seem to have been ground down! Not completely but almost

The casting date is 8/16/63

the i.d. pad on top has a 41 with an iron cross symbol nothing else,

I am stumped, any suggestions?


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Re: experimental 426 max wedge block? [Re: dusterdoug] #2065226
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So it's 63 413 block that had factory undersized crank (Maltese cross).
Doug

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But the casting numbers are specific to the 426. that is what all the casting list say.

So wonder if it could be bored to the 4.25 of the 426?


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452 13.5:1, Indy SR's Wiend Team G 1050 holley
1.45 60', 10.52 e.t. 127mph spinning tires
68 Cuda
440 stock bottom end 906 heads 4.30 gears leaf spring with snubber
1.50 60', 11.15 e.t. 120 mph.
65 coronet
5.7 Hemi 46rh trans.
Re: experimental 426 max wedge block? [Re: dusterdoug] #2065341
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I'll assume it has the 1/2 NPT size oil pickup boss and not the standard passenger car production size 3/8 NPT pickup, if so then it may have been intended for use in the 1962 Max Wedge warreenty program. That late in the year casting date it may have even been intended to be used as a street 426 block instead of a M.W. motor confused This is one of ty]he many reasons I've learn to never say the factory did anything out of the ordinary, especially on our beloved Mopars twocents
As far as boring it out have the block sonic tested by a good shop before deciding thumbs scope I've had two 413 industrial blocks sonic tested and bore out to the standard 426 4.250 bore size, no problems on the sonic tests thumbsBTW, there are more than three 426 wedge block casting numbers shruggy

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Are the bores notched for the valves?

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Only 413's I know that may have gotten the .070 over was the 029 blocks. All Max Wedges have exhaust valve reliefs on the bores. IF not, it's not a
MW block.


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Originally Posted By DARTH V8R
Only 413's I know that may have gotten the .070 over was the 029 blocks. All Max Wedges have exhaust valve reliefs on the bores. IF not, it's not a
MW block.


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I've been told that late 63 413 blocks could be casting # 2406730. What size pick up threads? Is the bore notched?
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The 41 means it was built as a 413. The maltese cross means as listed above. This tells me that it came off the line in a production vehicle. Chrysler did a lot of crazy things and if they were short of 413 blocks they might have easily picked a 426 and bored it to the right size. Cylinder size in rough cast blocks is quite a bit smaller than the intended finish bore.

There is an industrial block that has a 426 casting number that was used for 413s as well, so it isn't far off the norm.

In other words, unless your block has valve notches and the 1/2" oil pickup it probably came out of any production car that came with a 413.

R.

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I had a 2205697 casting 426 street wedge that had its last three ground down as well. Was stamped on pad V42 HP. Books show that casting number as 413 block and others show was used for both 413 and 426 passenger car applications. I figured bore size was just dependent on what had on hand and needed but always thought the grinding of the last three was odd. Now wonder if had something to do with using non standard block casting for decreased or increased cubes. Along with pad stamping another sign to line worker or future mechanics that something was different with block.

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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
I'll assume it has the 1/2 NPT size oil pickup boss and not the standard passenger car production size 3/8 NPT pickup, if so then it may have been intended for use in the 1962 Max Wedge warreenty program. That late in the year casting date it may have even been intended to be used as a street 426 block instead of a M.W. motor confused This is one of ty]he many reasons I've learn to never say the factory did anything out of the ordinary, especially on our beloved Mopars twocents
As far as boring it out have the block sonic tested by a good shop before deciding thumbs scope I've had two 413 industrial blocks sonic tested and bore out to the standard 426 4.250 bore size, no problems on the sonic tests thumbsBTW, there are more than three 426 wedge block casting numbers shruggy


Interesting note, in 62 the max wedge blocks still used the 3/8 pickup tube as on regular production 413. The oil pickup tube increased to 1/2 for the 63 production year. Have a factory max wedge 11:1 '62 block and thought odd it had smaller tube. Verified info correct through Darrell Davis. Never knew this till found this block and has always assumed all were 1/2.

With his block being stamped 41 I'd think was standard engine as font and stampings different on MW's. Also if just stamped with 41 and Maltese cross only, was probably an over the counter block or replacement block cause otherwise would have date code in front of 41 for production year and an assembly date stamped on pad also.

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Thanks guys for all the information.
I have looked over what you all have said and talked to local Mopar Enthusiasts and concluded:

1. it was probably a 413
2. Chrysler did what ever they needed or wanted to get some engines built and put into cars.

Thanks for the info everyone.


72 duster
452 13.5:1, Indy SR's Wiend Team G 1050 holley
1.45 60', 10.52 e.t. 127mph spinning tires
68 Cuda
440 stock bottom end 906 heads 4.30 gears leaf spring with snubber
1.50 60', 11.15 e.t. 120 mph.
65 coronet
5.7 Hemi 46rh trans.






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