Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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I actually prefer the E-body location in my 64 Savoy. My first shifter in the car was a 70 Runner tall pistol grip and it was fun for street driving but when I started racing I opted for the short throw E-body location. I like the position right next to my knee it just feels natural Gus
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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Is it safe to assume that you know that the 71 B body 4 speed bench stuff is all unique. So if you are short any parts, then going with the bucket seat/E body set-up would be the only real option because there isn't much available for the bench seat set-up. I don't think that even the boot for that set-up is available, is it?
And the fold down arm rest cars came with the same set-up that the bench seat cars did.
I think that the bucket seat/E body shifter set-up will be coming up through the floor right into the arm rest.
If you do decide to swap set-ups and have all the stuff from the bench seat set-up, it is probably worth a good bit of coin. Some of that stuff is nearly impossible to find.
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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Is it safe to assume that you know that the 71 B body 4 speed bench stuff is all unique. So if you are short any parts, then going with the bucket seat/E body set-up would be the only real option because there isn't much available for the bench seat set-up. I don't think that even the boot for that set-up is available, is it? Actually Brewers has the correct repro boots, repro 71 pistol grip bench shifters , repro of the odd ball shifter dog bone plate, as well as assorted other repro pcs for the bench seat set up for 71 B... That being said, I've done the 71 Bench seat set up as well as the rearward console location in several 71-2 B body builds, while the bench seat set up is cool, the pistol grip handle sits too close to the drivers leg, the throws are too long, kinda akin to driving a 10spd cement truck, the rearward/console set up is IMHO at the optimum location and height for shifting comfortably, either set up is nice, it's more a matter of personal preference
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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04/24/16 11:28 PM
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my 72 has the bench setup. i'm 6'3" with long arms so it works with me. shorter folks may have a problem. it is a long throw though.
clem
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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Whats this fit??? Whats it worth??? Not mine just wonder if the seller has it listed right.
I love the bench seat 4 speed shifters, the shorties shifters do have a much better feel.
I would love that setup in my car. don't know if seat covers are made for them. clem
when i grow up i want to be just like sunroofgtx, god please don't let me grow up.
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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I read this week that allot of people like the short version, as its more positive and a shorter throw.
Since its an easy switch, I'm thinking of buying all the correct new short shifter and ditching the tall grip for the short version, and order the correct hump for the change over. Car isn't numbers matching, and I prefer the no-console look.
Any advantages or disadvantages for the change over.
Do you, or those that say they like the short shifter, have really long arms, because you'll be reaching low for the shifter? I drove an A body with an E body handle ... stock A body shifter location ... and that was what I had to do because I don't have really long arms. ... like the guy that posted above about it ... If you want to shorten the throw then first you should drive the car with the stock shifter and see if it's really a problem for YOU, since you are the person actually doing the driving. If you then feel maybe a shorter throw would be beneficial(???) then think about getting the 70 only B body shifter mechanism as it has longer levers and will shorten the throw.
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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I would go with the forward bench seat shifter if your using the buddy seat. 4-speeds and buddy sets rock! Your hand is always on the shifter and arm resting on the buddy seat. I would think the rear short shifter would interfere with the buddy seat. Rear mounted short shifter location would be under the buddy seat.
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Re: 4spd decision making...bench to bucket in 71-b-body.
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That looks like a Challenger bench seat. You are probably correct , I'm pretty sure the B body seat like that is straight across and doesn't have a raised center like the one pictured.
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