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51 or 52? old school #'s question #2040648
03/28/16 08:35 PM
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Si I have this 51 B3B pick-up...I think. It has a 3/4 ton front axle under it and I'm wonder if the engine is too or maybe the entire truck is. The Title says 51 and the rear is a 1/2 ton rear. So anyway.... the head has a casting date of H-4.33.52 There is an A and a P close by then it also has 14058849-7 on it. The block has a casting date of A 5.22.52 on it and along the rail is 1326227-40 and up by the head it is stamed T306(STAR) 402T8I(STAR)what is it?

Re: 51 or 52? old school #'s question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2040829
03/28/16 11:47 PM
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From the Dodge Pickup History & Restoration guide book:

The 1st "B" = the body series, the "3" = 1951-1952 model year, and the last "B" = 1/2 ton. a number following that "108" would be the wheel base.

Engine numbers covers 2 years indicating there was little or no engineering changes over those 2 years to the motor. (49 & 50, 51 & 52, 53 & 54.)

51 & 52 numbers look like this:
A B-3-B-108 with a motor number starting with a T306 is a 51-52 1/2 ton, with a 108" wheel base.

A B-3-C-116 with a motor number of T308 is a 3/4 ton with a 116" wheel base.

A B-3-D 116 with a T310 motor number is a 1 ton with a 116" wheel base.

A B-3-D-126 with a T310 motor number is a 1 ton with a 126" wheel base.

A B-3-PW-126 with a T137 motor number is a 1 ton Power Wagon with a 126" wheel base. (All Power Wagons have the T137 motor number, an early T137 is a 230 CI, the late T137 is a 250 CI.)


There is no mention of casting numbers, but one might think a casting number ending with a 52 might indicate a 52 model year truck.
This would indicate the 3/4 ton front axle has been added. Gene

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Re: 51 or 52? old school #'s question [Re: poorboy] #2040997
03/29/16 09:03 AM
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if the 3/4t front axle has been added, maybe the engine has been changed some time in the past as well ? maybe just the cylinder head ? i guess the question arises as to how well know the history of the truck is. gene is probably the leading most authority here on these trucks.
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Re: 51 or 52? old school #'s question [Re: poorboy] #2041023
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Originally Posted By poorboy
From the Dodge Pickup History & Restoration guide book:

The 1st "B" = the body series, the "3" = 1951-1952 model year, and the last "B" = 1/2 ton. a number following that "108" would be the wheel base.

Engine numbers covers 2 years indicating there was little or no engineering changes over those 2 years to the motor. (49 & 50, 51 & 52, 53 & 54.)

51 & 52 numbers look like this:
A B-3-B-108 with a motor number starting with a T306 is a 51-52 1/2 ton, with a 108" wheel base.

A B-3-C-116 with a motor number of T308 is a 3/4 ton with a 116" wheel base.

A B-3-D 116 with a T310 motor number is a 1 ton with a 116" wheel base.

A B-3-D-126 with a T310 motor number is a 1 ton with a 126" wheel base.

A B-3-PW-126 with a T137 motor number is a 1 ton Power Wagon with a 126" wheel base. (All Power Wagons have the T137 motor number, an early T137 is a 230 CI, the late T137 is a 250 CI.)


There is no mention of casting numbers, but one might think a casting number ending with a 52 might indicate a 52 model year truck.
This would indicate the 3/4 ton front axle has been added. Gene


Thanks, these are all numbers on the drivers side of the engine. Are there any on the pass side I should look for? Also what cubic inch is this one? It actually runs quiet well.

Re: 51 or 52? old school #'s question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2041471
03/29/16 10:25 PM
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Thanks, these are all numbers on the drivers side of the engine. Are there any on the pass side I should look for? Also what cubic inch is this one? It actually runs quiet well.
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The engine numbers are only listed on the left (driver) side of the motor. The T 308 is a 216 Cu In with 97 HP.

The Power Wagon T 137 is 230 cu in and was rated at 103 HP.

In the last 67 years, any number of changes could have taken place on that 51/52 truck. The old flathead could have been bored and had a milled head added that would change the HP numbers and cu in in a hurry. If it runs good, and you can live with the power level, use it.

I don't pretend to be any kind of authority, but I've got a book that has proven to be pretty accurate. Its just too bad some of the info I would like to have is not in the book. I have owned a few trucks from the 50s era, though restoring anything is not of interest to me much. I like the old body styles, but give me the modern drive train, suspension, and brakes any day. Gene







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