Re: t-ram vs single 4500
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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03/14/16 12:32 AM
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ya no question about better distribution thump im more stuck on what carbs i would use???im looking for max gain but i also like alittle bit of streetability.....would dual doms be worth it?or pair of 1050 4150s be close enough?has anyone played with this??? I`ll never jump on the efi wagon cos I`m not a quitter and love the challenge of making carbs work..........easy no, but I don`t buy the "efi makes more power bs" look at Pro stock. Carbs cool the intake charge better and make more power up to a point so in your case find out how much cfm you need and have a couple built by who ever............. Dom.. you do know why the HP is lower on them.. its not due to efi... its the lack of rpm.. like 1500 less... some day you will join this century Read they were 100+ hp down on power and I`m sure the hot air off of the track into the ducting isn`t helping either. I am in this century homey street driving a 9-second n/a car, building quality carbs having a great time pushing my limits so whatever man............to each his own and you can have your efi if it does what you need it to do......
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Re: t-ram vs single 4500
[Re: Thumperdart]
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03/14/16 12:54 AM
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ya no question about better distribution thump im more stuck on what carbs i would use???im looking for max gain but i also like alittle bit of streetability.....would dual doms be worth it?or pair of 1050 4150s be close enough?has anyone played with this??? I`ll never jump on the efi wagon cos I`m not a quitter and love the challenge of making carbs work..........easy no, but I don`t buy the "efi makes more power bs" look at Pro stock. Carbs cool the intake charge better and make more power up to a point so in your case find out how much cfm you need and have a couple built by who ever............. Dom.. you do know why the HP is lower on them.. its not due to efi... its the lack of rpm.. like 1500 less... some day you will join this century Read they were 100+ hp down on power and I`m sure the hot air off of the track into the ducting isn`t helping either. I am in this century homey street driving a 9-second n/a car, building quality carbs having a great time pushing my limits so whatever man............to each his own and you can have your efi if it does what you need it to do...... Dom... I'm not your homey... if you dont want do go with it.. fine
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Re: t-ram vs single 4500
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03/14/16 02:14 AM
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Nobody has ever said EFI made more power to my knowledge. To make a certain power, you have to burn a certain amount of fuel. Whether you spray(EFI) or leak(carbs) it in there makes little difference. BUT, EFI is infinitely more tunable and there is nothing in the fuel curve you can't fix. EFI sometimes makes more AVERAGE power, but seldom more peak.
I have converted several to EFI, that I had carbureted dyno sheets on. I put the same lb/hr of fuel through the motor at upper rpms and they made exactly the same power. The difference is usually in mid and low ranges, where they generally have to be run much leaner on EFI because the atomization is so much better.
If you don't like EFI, you don't like it and that's fine. But you will NEVER get as good of a fuel curve with carbs.
And the Pro-Stocks started 100hp down on PEAK. Some are now within 25 of last years peak, even with the rev limiter. Many have better average though, which is why they are not that much slower than last year, with a program they have been working on a few months vs YEARS. To me, they are actually pretty damned impressive to be where they are already
I LOVE EFI. Recently put it on my beater CJ-5 and the jetboat is next
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Re: t-ram vs single 4500
[Re: KOS]
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03/14/16 03:54 AM
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Hi Mercman1, I have a very similar setup to you...69 GTX, 3550lbs less driver, 4:10 rear gears, Lenco ST1200 5spd (3.10 first gear), Tim Hyatt Clutch System, Caltacs, monoleafs, Sliders, and was running a 440 single carb, but now building my 604" Hemi.
New Hemi 604, 12.5cr, Custom Comp Mechanical Roller, 278/280 @.050 112* and .700 lift, Stage V Big Valve Heads, Stage V dual Quad Intake, Stefs Oil Pan, etc...
I have not decided on Carburation, however Ray Barton told me that if I run dual 800cfm AVS edelbrock carbs, I can run them progressive. I would have the carbs modded for 1000 cfm by Diamondback, or run 2x Quick fuel 950 - 1050 4150 Q-Carbs mounted sideways, non-progressive.
Car is strip/street, but still trying to decide what is best for carburation.
Mark
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Re: t-ram vs single 4500
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03/14/16 01:21 PM
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[quote=lockjaw-express]Hi Doug, what size engine and a few specs would be helpful...
Thank you! [/quote 572, MCH -1,285/292,112 LCA,.800 lift,14.8-1, Ultimate 9" 6000, 4.10, 10.5x31 M/T. Doug
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