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SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
#201417
01/22/09 08:55 PM
01/22/09 08:55 PM
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Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
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Bought a damper from 440 Source in June of '07. Engine has maybe 3,000 street/strip miles since install. Was checking everything over the other day and noticed blistering and flaking paint along the inner and outer ring joint. Removal and closer inspection revealed rust all along the joint  but then I noticed that the outer ring was loose  . It would move front to rear and side to side. I talked to 440 Source's tech today (after leaving repeated messages) and (of course) the 90 day warranty is long expired, so T. S.  This part just plain failed prematurely and could have made a real mess of things had I not just happened to have caught it. I feel they should have offered some help! I even offered to order some other things I need, it they would just help some with the new damper. Shouldn't they have at least wanted to see the thing to know what is going on? But then, I guess it doesn't matter because they don't offer this particular damper anymore. (I wonder why?  ) So, anyway, anyone with their previous style of damper (black) might ought to look it over in case I have not gotten the only bad one.
Master, again and still
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: DaveRS23]
#201418
01/22/09 09:13 PM
01/22/09 09:13 PM
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Wichita,KS
Blakcharger440
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I brought a SFI Damper from 440Source about 3 months ago and it is part #200-1020 on their website. It has the SFI spec sticker on it RPM SFI 18.1. It is black and I hope it is not the same damper that you are talking about. This doesnt sound good.  I think that they should offer help with the part given the obvious defect.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: dthemi]
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01/22/09 09:33 PM
01/22/09 09:33 PM
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Wichita,KS
Blakcharger440
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Well, it is a discount type part, and as a company they never really know what happens after it leaves the warehouse. Sometimes people beat them on, or pry them off, or have them on out of balance stuff that kills them quick. I'm by no means saying you did any of that stuff to it, just that they don't know that, so it might explain why they're not helping.
I'm not trying to excuse 440 source either, but warranty duration is always a good thing to consider with the price.
Mine actually has the SFI rated sticker on it. Can they get away with that if it is not?
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: dthemi]
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01/22/09 09:38 PM
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DaveRS23
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Sure, it could be something I did. I would have felt better about it if they would have wanted to see the thing. Had I beat on it or dropped it or whatever, the evidence would be readily apparent. Because they were only concerned with the purchace date and not what caused the failure ( they didn't ask a single question as to cause), they either already know what the issue is or don't care what the issue is. Either way, I'm disapponted.
I am a wholesaler myself, and have been for many years. I have never encountered a situation where discount or wholesale price reduced warranty, particularly with a repeat customer.
And this damper has the SFI 18.1 sticker on it.
Last edited by DaveRS23; 01/22/09 09:41 PM.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: Blakcharger440]
#201423
01/22/09 09:41 PM
01/22/09 09:41 PM
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Central Coast
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I've dealt with the guys at 440 source and have had good experiences. They are fairly close by and have a good reputation with the local mopar community. I bought thier girdle kit and pan. The pan was a mess and they had no problem fixing the issue. They actually pulled several of their pans to check against mine and reassured me that the new pan would not have the same problems. Got the pan and their word was good! My  I guess a lot can be said for checking "everything" during a freshen up. Glad to hear the Damper was caught before it was too late! Tremp
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: Plumcrazyracing]
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01/22/09 09:46 PM
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moparniac
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I think a 90 day warranty on a SFI dampner is a joke...... I mean cmon. how many miles do you put on your car in 90 days!  Its a mazing to me how the customer service is 50/50 at best. your either liked or no...... maybe it depends on how much youve spent there...
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: Plumcrazyracing]
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01/22/09 09:46 PM
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NE Oklahoma
Von
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I wont say much, as damage control will be along shortly, ie either a lock or Brandon with his usual excuses.
I just laugh as I was flamed like heck for daring to share my Source experiences.
Again, I dont have anywhere near as much problem with his parts as his excuses.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: moparniac]
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01/22/09 10:02 PM
01/22/09 10:02 PM
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Wichita,KS
Blakcharger440
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I think a 90 day warranty on a SFI dampner is a joke...... I mean cmon. how many miles do you put on your car in 90 days!
Its a mazing to me how the customer service is 50/50 at best. your either liked or no...... maybe it depends on how much youve spent there...
Well it has been longer than 30 days since I purchased my damper from them. I also purchased my stroker kit,oil pan and main caps from them as well as other small stuff. Guess I am probably screwed on the damper....I havent even finished putting together my 512 yet.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
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01/22/09 10:26 PM
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...where are the blocks ???...  ~S~
"The function of man is to live, not exist..."
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: DaveRS23]
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01/22/09 10:43 PM
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And this damper has the SFI 18.1 sticker on it.
Isn't that there to make sure the part is "safe"? I wonder what would have happened at the track if it came apart? A little kid was killed recently by stray parts from a Monster truck.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: DV8]
#201434
01/22/09 11:05 PM
01/22/09 11:05 PM
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State of Corruption
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...where are the blocks ???...
~S~
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SO are they going to make the block
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Quote from Brandon at 440Source:
Sorry guys, It's been put on hold for the time being. The factory we were dealing with is used to pouring blocks for major automakers. After we perfected the tooling, they told us there would be a minimum requirement of several thousand blocks, which would require us to put up millions of dollars in investment capitol.
We tried to explain to them that big block Mopars are a "hobby" engine, and no company out there is going to sell these blocks by the thousands. The first shipment alone would have had to be over 3000 blocks. The block "waiting list" which we have been keeping over the last (approx) 2 years has 105 people on it.
Of course we could make the blocks if we doubled the price, but we wanted to keep them around the $1500 level, otherwise, why wouldn't you just go out and buy a World block?
To make a long story short, the consensus is basically that everyone felt it wasnt worth making, at least for the time being. Sorry if this disapoints some people, we have been working really hard on it ourselves, so it really wasn't what we were hoping to hear.
And the comment above about World blocks is correct, they are NOT made in the USA. I'll let you take an educated guess on where they come from.
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Re: SURPRISE ! 440 Source damper is crap
[Re: DaveRS23]
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01/22/09 11:56 PM
01/22/09 11:56 PM
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St. Louis, MO
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Hello, My thought is that a 90 day warranty is what you have and you are way way past the warranty. It has been about 19 months since you bought the damper. It is our hobby/passion (so we take it a bit personal) but it is his business. I cannot fault them about this. Bargain parts are surely not the best but they serve a place in all industries. I am very glad that you caught the issue. Damon 
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