Ammo for Inline Tube
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I am putting a 70 Duster 318 car back together. It is a 318 car with factory 10" drums. I re-verified that this is what should be on a V8 car with the FSM. The DS front brake line that goes from the rubber line to the wheel cylinder is a home made job from back in the day. It had some Teflon tape on it when I pulled the wheel apart. I was worried about it leaking at the wheel cylinder since the fitting pretty much bottoms out in the new wheel cylinder. The line was fairly tight, but not as much as I would like. It leaks. I ordered a new set of front brake lines from Inline Tube and they arrived quickly and they were wrong. Of course it was on a Saturday. I called on Monday and the tech was at lunch. 1230pm Detroit time. I called back around 2pm Detroit time and got a tongue lashing from the Tech about how busy he was and I needed to be patient and how I was on his list to call back. I held my tongue. He wanted a picture of the PS brake line since it was a factory original. When he called back he told me that it was for a 9" drum brake car and not a 10". He felt that he had to tell me this several times. I was obviously wrong as far as he was concerned. It took the entire week to get the brake lines. I am pretty sure that they had to bend them up and they were not in stock. I base my assumption on the fact that the first set arrived quickly. The top set in the picture are the first ones that they sent. The bottom set are the ones that just arrived, on Saturday. If you can look closely, the fittings are the same on the second set. One side needs to be longer to bottom out in the wheel cylinder. If it is possible to get the guy to admit that their records are wrong, 10" drums vs. 9", I still have to wait another week to get the parts. I guarantee that the LONG fitting will be on the WRONG side when they come. Naturally I have to wait until Monday to try to get this fixed. Opinions? Thanks
1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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The last build I did was my 68 GTS. I got Finelines as replacements from front to rear. Never had a more difficult time getting brake lines to stop leaking. Tried everything. Tightening, backing off and retightening several times didn't seem to get the flares to seal. Ended up getting some lines done up locally. Finelines, never again.
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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Sorry, but there's enough posts on here regarding brake line vendors, that FINELINES should have been your only choice Missed those. Gonna research Fine Lines. I'm looking forward to crawling WAY up some behinds first.
1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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Sorry, but there's enough posts on here regarding brake line vendors, that FINELINES should have been your only choice Missed those. Gonna research Fine Lines. I'm looking forward to crawling WAY up some behinds first. I did a build using Inline Tube. Replaced fuel and brake lines front to rear. Never had a problem. Don't know why I used Finelines on my 68.
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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Had issues with their lines from long ago... Had to tweak every single one to make 'em work...
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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02/07/16 05:52 PM
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Sorry, but there's enough posts on here regarding brake line vendors, that FINELINES should have been your only choice But then their shop only about 15 minutes from my house. Good bunch of guys Gus
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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I'm looking forward to crawling WAY up some behinds first. My Dad was a proctologist. (No he wasn't)
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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For what it's worth on leaking lines. I know this sounds wrong (as I told the person who taught me). Put a dab of teflon thread sealer on the threads and on the flare. I don't know why it works but it does work. Try it and you'll never build another brake line job without it. You will never have another leak either. Doug Agreed, Teflon paste or light oil will help fresh fittings and lines seat/seal properly, esp Stainless Steel lines, also a must is a proper set of tube wrenches, a standard wrench can "egg" a flare fitting when tightening and no amount of sealer or torque will keep it from weeping Mike
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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I'll probably end up using some Teflon paste. That is if these guys can build me the right lines, and if they can eat a little humble pie too.
Last edited by cdstl; 02/08/16 02:30 AM.
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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That might work on steel lines, but I've done battle with SS...
The flares must be perfect... The only lines I like to install are Stainless, I find them no more an issue than steel whether I make them, or purchase them, 3/16 stainless lines are a bear on double flare equipment to make however, esp on the die end, you need to stock up on dies as they fracture alot forming that small a radius Mike
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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That might work on steel lines, but I've done battle with SS...
The flares must be perfect... Thats when I first started using it, on stainless. My bet is it lubricates more than seals. I was a skeptic, as were many I told. Try it. Doug
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Re: Ammo for Inline Tube
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I discovered years ago that just because a model year changed at Chrysler, parts on the line may have changed before or after the date of the model year change.
If they ran out of a specific part, the line would swap in next years parts in, to keep the line moving, and if there was still a supply of a specific part left over in inventory, the line probably used them before breaking open the new stuff.
At the model year end, the last month of the old year or first month of the new production year could have a mixture of both years parts on it. Older Mopars could have had parts from 2-3 months either side of a model year change. This procedure has been documented at Chrysler as far back as the late 40s and still continued through at least 2004, and probably is still going on.
Our 04 PT has a turbo. According to everyone, any 04 turbo car comes with rear disc brakes. Our early production 04 has rear drum brakes, something that ended with the 03 production parts. When I need rear brake parts, I need to get 03 rear brakes.
The old line on Chrysler was "Never say Never" and saying they "always" did something is just as incorrect. At Chrysler, the only "always" means there is "always a possibility of exceptions to everything". Gene
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