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Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: todd440] #200505 01/22/09 08:37 PM 01/22/09 08:37 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	None of what I listed relates to any published production numbers, purely a list of cars known and documented to exist (with one exception still undocumented, known from old photos only). As far as I know there are no published (or private) production numbers on theses cars. Chrysler still has most of the IBM cards for the 67 model year but they keep them private unless you provide proof of ownership of any particular VIN#.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200506 01/22/09 09:25 PM 01/22/09 09:25 PM
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todd440 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Lapeer, MI.	Sorry Scott, I didn't direct that at you. I was just sharing info for all the people who read that only a certain number was made of a car.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200507 01/22/09 10:06 PM 01/22/09 10:06 PM
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SNK-EYZ I Live Here Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,155 A Red State	Quote: Yes Galen still has that car. The gold Satellite mentioned still exists as do several other 67 Hemi Satellites including one which is a white Pilot car, 4 speed convertible it was sold at Barrett Jackson a couple years ago. I'll be updating the site to include the 67 Hemi Satellites once I have all of the info in order. There's a local guy here that has one of the 67 Hemi Satellite Hardtop's. I can't remember if his is an auto or a 4-speed. The car needs a full resto as it was a race car early in it's life. If memory serves me right the car is Turbine Bronze color. Here's a pic of one of the other cars he has, you might recognize it. Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200508 01/22/09 10:23 PM 01/22/09 10:23 PM
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EWJ master E Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,464 Back in NJ....	Quote: Never seen the 66, have a VIN#? My father ordered it new- here is the info: 1966 Plymouth Belvedere II 4 door sedan, forest green metallic with citron gold cloth interior, drum brakes, light package, foam seat padding, wheel covers, drum brakes, manual steering, wood grained steering wheel, 4 speed, am radio with rear speaker. The car was ordered by Franklin Motors, Wyckoff NJ on 3/22/66, and built almost immediately in St Louis, Missouri. It arrived at Wyckoff on Thursday, 4/7/66. It had 180,000 miles on it when it disappeared 7/4/80 I've spent YEARS trying to locate it: old insurance cards, old registrations, copy of police report (old records supposedly destroyed), etc. All I can say is that it did exist (I lived with it for the first 10 years of my life): have some pics, but nothing that really puts it all in one pic. Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: EWJ] #200509 01/22/09 10:45 PM 01/22/09 10:45 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: My father ordered it new- here is the info: 1966 Plymouth Belvedere II 4 door sedan, forest green metallic with citron gold cloth interior, drum brakes, light package, foam seat padding, wheel covers, drum brakes, manual steering, wood grained steering wheel, 4 speed, am radio with rear speaker. The car was ordered by Franklin Motors, Wyckoff NJ on 3/22/66, and built almost immediately in St Louis, Missouri. It arrived at Wyckoff on Thursday, 4/7/66. It had 180,000 miles on it when it disappeared 7/4/80 I've spent YEARS trying to locate it: old insurance cards, old registrations, copy of police report (old records supposedly destroyed), etc. All I can say is that it did exist (I lived with it for the first 10 years of my life): have some pics, but nothing that really puts it all in one pic. Sounds like a neat car, one of those old registrations should have a VIN#? If you have any pics you'd like to share I'll post them on my site ifyou like. Any story on why your father ordered a 4 door Hemi 4 speed car?

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200510 01/22/09 11:24 PM 01/22/09 11:24 PM
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EWJ master E Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,464 Back in NJ....	I have not located any old documents, hence not knowing the VIN. The 'old man' liked to keep a low profile. The thought of ordering the Hemi 4 door came after he purchased a used 1965 Fury 4 door 365hp/426 Wedge, 4 speed car from a dealer. It had been used by a zone rep in northern NJ. Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: 4boxers4] #200511 01/23/09 12:53 AM 01/23/09 12:53 AM
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4boxers4 OP super stock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 957 Heart of Ohio	OK guys here are more details as I spoke to him about them today. He is telling me he purchased it in 1981 in Columbus as a 3rd owner. He didn't know if it was a Belvedere 1 or 2(how to tell?). He mentioned something about 1 of 4 "Silver Specials", but they were supposed to have been crushed. It was badged up and I HAVE seen a pic. He is bringing it to me in the next few days to upload. It had a black gator grain top and black and silver interior(he mentioned the black insert similar to the top material, gator grain). It was an automatic car. He only owned it for a couple of months and he is a GM guy so he doesn't remember each detail. He said he sold it to a gentleman in Indy named Schmidt who used to own the Diamonte as well. He told me he parked it next that when he delivered it. He has always seemed trustworthy and knows many details so I believe him. There was an article in one of the Mopar mags about it and he thinks it is in some Dupont registry. He said '67 so I would think the title was accurate. Does this help anyone get us closer? I love a good chase... Persistance is omnipotent Durability Engineer, Chair and Couch division...

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: 4boxers4] #200512 01/23/09 01:36 AM 01/23/09 01:36 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Belvedere I's are sedans, BelvedereII's are hard tops. If it was optioned as described it was a Bel II because that's the only model the interior and roof you described was available on. There were a couple "Silver Special" packages available, silver paint, silver & dark grey 2 tone interior, and matching dark grey vinyl roof came when you ordered the complete set. One of the known cars is equipped as you described, two others are silver with other roof and interior options, one of these may have also had all 3, still waiting for the IBM card to verify.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200513 01/23/09 04:57 PM 01/23/09 04:57 PM
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4boxers4 OP super stock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 957 Heart of Ohio	Wow...I don't know how Imissed it. I guess because the small photo looks like the whole car is silver but his car IS on that website you attached. It is the Belvedere II that is silver and the first car on that row of 3(RH23J7) He was looking up more info and even mentioned emailing you about some of the extra pics he has and the details. He also sent those to me to post. I am not sure if people are interested in the history of that vehicle or not but I found it interesting. Very cool stuff. I appreciate your follow up as it has made the whole discussion very enjoyable! Persistance is omnipotent Durability Engineer, Chair and Couch division...

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: 4boxers4] #200514 01/23/09 09:03 PM 01/23/09 09:03 PM
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lakerism mopar Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 402 La Verne, CA	Here's a 66 Hemi Belvedere II 4968708-66HemiBelvedereII.jpg (267 downloads)

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: lakerism] #200515 01/23/09 11:46 PM 01/23/09 11:46 PM
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Michael master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,183 Bridgeport, WV	Here's a 66 Belvedere 1 Hemi-CLONE-

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: Michael] #200516 01/26/09 07:48 PM 01/26/09 07:48 PM
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boston member B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 florida usa	I own the other 67 Belvedere1, the automatic, still working on the resto.. Dennis

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: boston] #200517 01/26/09 07:57 PM 01/26/09 07:57 PM
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jlemon top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,058 Seed Corn Capital USA	Quote: I own the other 67 Belvedere1, the automatic, still working on the resto.. Dennis The car in the sig right Dennis?

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: jlemon] #200518 01/27/09 12:21 PM 01/27/09 12:21 PM
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boston member B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 florida usa	I haven't seen that picture before, but that looks like the same one, it now has a flat hood with no hood scoop. If you have any more info on it, I would be interested. Thanks

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: boston] #200519 01/27/09 01:12 PM 01/27/09 01:12 PM
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bordin34 super stock B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD	I don't know the year of this one. I took the pictures at a cruise night in Wyckoff,NJ. I spoke to the owner at another local show and he's really a nice guy and the car is all original. Last edited by bordin34; 01/27/09 01:17 PM.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: jlemon] #200520 01/27/09 02:07 PM 01/27/09 02:07 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The car with the scoop above is the same blue sedan Jim now owns. I've known about the car for about 20 years now, it came from Michigan. It was not a factory race car and to my knowledge was not raced by any well known racers, the hood scoop did not come on the car, it was added later. The last owner I spoke with was owned a person who works for Mopar on the Viper Team, since then it's been through a couple owners since.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200521 01/27/09 02:11 PM 01/27/09 02:11 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	For those posting pics and references to 1966 Hemi cars, keep in mind that Chrysler did not limit the Hemi to any certain models in 1966, that didn't start until 1967. So, while they look very similar in body shape, etc. there is a big difference in rarity when discussing 1966 vs 1967 Belvedere/Satellite factory Hemi cars. Due to the fact that the 2 model years look so much alike many people who have shared thier memories of "1967 Hemi cars" were in fact remembering a 1966 car, allot of cases of mistaken identity.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #200522 01/27/09 02:27 PM 01/27/09 02:27 PM
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SNK-EYZ I Live Here Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,155 A Red State	Hey Scott, Do you know the build numbers for the 67 Hemi Satellite's? I'm just curious because the guy that I was talking about with the 67 (Bob Pickel) was quoting four 4-speed and 1 automatic back when he traded into the car. His was supposed to be the only automatic car built. Then a little later he said someone told him there were two built. Are those numbers even close? Thanks Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: SNK-EYZ] #200523 01/27/09 02:45 PM 01/27/09 02:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	There were more 67 Hemi Satellites than people are currently aware of. I don't want to post numbers until I have a firm number, for conversation purposes there are less than 10 known total, somewhere around 5-6 cars.

Re: '67 Hemi Belvidere...only 1 made? Ever heard of this? [Re: bordin34] #200524 01/27/09 02:46 PM 01/27/09 02:46 PM
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EWJ master E Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,464 Back in NJ....	Quote: I don't know the year of this one. I took the pictures at a cruise night in Wyckoff,NJ. I spoke to the owner at another local show and he's really a nice guy and the car is all original. It's a 1966. Another one like this (Mauve Metallic), but a Satellite, was sold new at Franklin Motors there in Wyckoff, NJ. Very nice car and makes regular rounds at many Northern NJ cruises. Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".

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