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OK so now that it out there, MATS #1991425 01/15/16 07:00 PM 01/15/16 07:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca M mikeysmopars OP top fuel
mikeysmopars OP top fuel M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca	OK..Just to see how this is going to be received, Phil has opened MATS up to most everyone and will now allow brand exers in Pro and super pro as well as several other classes, what is your thoughts and more importantly will you attend or race? Personally doesn't bother me and wouldn't mind being able to put a couple brand exers on the trailer. Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991435 01/15/16 07:30 PM 01/15/16 07:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	IF I was a real racer, I`d prefer all brands instead of Mopar on Mopar stuff..............just makes sense.......I may go watch but not sure. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991491 01/15/16 08:40 PM 01/15/16 08:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	I have several freinds and customers that will not attend this year as they go for the car show, swap meet and the racing combined. They only race and show at the all Mopar events I'm kind of on the fence myself right now Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991569 01/15/16 10:40 PM 01/15/16 10:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,946 Windsor ,Ca. K Keith Richards master
Keith Richards master K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,946 Windsor ,Ca.	I knew about the Mopar vs the world class and all that has been going on and unfortunately have not been able to attend the last few years do to points races at my home track landing on the same weekend and Springfling that is there as well, was thinking of trying to make it this year. I made the 1st one as well as many others in fact I blew the tranny up on my RR and bought my Challenger at the 1st one and made it to the final a time or two along the way in Super Pro and the jackpot race so I was a bit shocked when I got on the website last week and saw the Musclecars at the Strip name.Going to still look into going but looks to be pretty much just another race now with a small car show thrown in.I do like the Quick 32 format though.

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: Cab_Burge] #1991582 01/15/16 10:59 PM 01/15/16 10:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Originally Posted By Cab_Burge I have several freinds and customers that will not attend this year as they go for the car show, swap meet and the racing combined. They only race and show at the all Mopar events I'm kind of on the fence myself right now I think you need new friends . In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: WHITEDART] #1991690 01/16/16 01:09 AM 01/16/16 01:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted By WHITEDART Originally Posted By Cab_Burge I have several freinds and customers that will not attend this year as they go for the car show, swap meet and the racing combined. They only race and show at the all Mopar events I'm kind of on the fence myself right now I think you need new friends . This is America so we all still get to choose what we do for entertainmnet, who we associate with and how we spend our time and money pursuing that Why comprimised your standards Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: Cab_Burge] #1991702 01/16/16 01:20 AM 01/16/16 01:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,141 A Red State SNK-EYZ I Live Here
SNK-EYZ I Live Here Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 10,141 A Red State	At least locally around here it seems more like it's the show car crowd that piss and moan about other makes at an event. Most of the Mopar racers seem to be happy with the chance to beat all the brand X and other brand cars. Locally there's the same stuff being said about the event that Phil Painter is doing at Gateway this fall. The show car crowd isn't happy about the event being all brands and not just Mopars. They should be happy that there's any event getting put on that Mopars can attend. Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991714 01/16/16 01:35 AM 01/16/16 01:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,184 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,184 Park Forest, IL	If I have to run against brand x cars I might as well go to my local dragstrip. I understand Mr. Painter has to do it to make money, but what's the point of going to a Mopar race to race Chevys and Fords? "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991746 01/16/16 02:35 AM 01/16/16 02:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	I plan on being there to race. Hopefully it will still be Mopar influenced enough to get some of the mopar specific vendors to show up. I like racing with Phil, hopefully it will continue to be a fun event with a good payout. But it sounds like this will not be a must attend event for me like it has been in the past. "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: slantzilla] #1991765 01/16/16 03:10 AM 01/16/16 03:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Originally Posted By slantzilla If I have to run against brand x cars I might as well go to my local dragstrip. I understand Mr. Painter has to do it to make money, but what's the point of going to a Mopar race to race Chevys and Fords? I personally dont like it but from the shop to the track is 5 miles, pretty hard not to show up... I guess the big question is how many of brand x cars are going to show vs the number of mopars that are going to stay home... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #1991774 01/16/16 03:28 AM 01/16/16 03:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	We have a local event thats Mopar against the world.. 2/3rd of the cars are X brand.. I havent seen a mopar win in years... if I want to race brand X cars I'll stay local and save fuel cost... I know why they are doing it, its all money and thats fine... but I dont have to drag my junk a few hundred miles to race the same thing as local.... and in most cases less entry fee and in a lot of cases has a better payout locally.. most of these so called mopar events suck

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991778 01/16/16 03:40 AM 01/16/16 03:40 AM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California MoParFish mopar
MoParFish mopar Joined: May 2010 Posts: 485 Central California	I don't mind racing against other brands and, I might even prefer it. I've met quite a few GM & Ford guys who really dig our Mopars. Looking forward to a great time as always be it Dodge Ford Chevy Peugeot.....OK maybe not Peugeot MCG article http://www.matslv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Robert-Wolf-Editorial.pdf http://www.matslv.com/mcg-editorial/ Sworn Member Central Valley MoPar Drag Pack. You can reach me at (done-et-chasing@going-rounds.gone)... :-) [img]https://s6.postimg.org/v3mbggksx/SAC16.jpg[/img]image hosting more than 5mb

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991792 01/16/16 04:28 AM 01/16/16 04:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	My son and I drove our street cars up from Phoenix last year, raced, ran around town, had a great time! I'm really struggling to wrap my arms around the change...not really feeling it. If my son wants to go, I will, but if it's up to me, I'll find other events to do. May save those funds for Hot Rod Drag Weekend instead. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991834 01/16/16 10:52 AM 01/16/16 10:52 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,200 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,200 aZLiViN	I'll be going..... but I've asked a couple of times on FB if they were opening things up..... would it be "cars" only after all they tout it as "muscle cars". They way things look it will be "just another race" in a few years (sea of pipe racks). Entry vs payout has never been "stellar" at MaTS, but we as racers took it for what it was.... a show.

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: J_BODY] #1991856 01/16/16 11:59 AM 01/16/16 11:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	I feel bad for the guys that race 2-3 times a year at Mopar only races as it will soon be I thing of the past. I never see Monster Mopar needing this but the smaller ones in order to survive open the doors to others. So what's the big deal? Your Mopar Friends are still there and you can race, eat, have a few beers, and BS just like every other past year. If these races aren't supported they will go away. See you guys at the races. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991872 01/16/16 12:32 PM 01/16/16 12:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 66 Oklahoma 6 66 Belvedere member
66 Belvedere member 6 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 66 Oklahoma	If you really love to race,it does not matter whats in the other lane. Ray

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991947 01/16/16 02:05 PM 01/16/16 02:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,373 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,373 Las Vegas	Well I understand the why and also understand the crowd involved. This has to be the hardest crowd in all over motorsports to please, the Mopar crowd that is. Seem like all they want to do is complain, then spread the word. This has been IMO a largely self inflicted wound. Every year I hear about people complaining about parking, entry, weather, swap meet blah blah blah. Then spread the word about how this was bad or that stunk then viola, you have an event in trouble. I applaud the Painter family for sticking with it, unfortunately knowing the Mopar crowd as I do this will mark the beginning of the end for this event. They will now have yet another reason to not attend this event. I hope I am wrong and that all you Mopar guys out there show up in force and show the Painter family they do not need other makes in all the classes. However I feel the opposite will be the outcome.. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: Al_Alguire] #1991958 01/16/16 02:22 PM 01/16/16 02:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Originally Posted By Al_Alguire Well I understand the why and also understand the crowd involved. This has to be the hardest crowd in all over motorsports to please, the Mopar crowd that is. Seem like all they want to do is complain, then spread the word. This has been IMO a largely self inflicted wound. Every year I hear about people complaining about parking, entry, weather, swap meet blah blah blah. Then spread the word about how this was bad or that stunk then viola, you have an event in trouble. I applaud the Painter family for sticking with it, unfortunately knowing the Mopar crowd as I do this will mark the beginning of the end for this event. They will now have yet another reason to not attend this event. I hope I am wrong and that all you Mopar guys out there show up in force and show the Painter family they do not need other makes in all the classes. However I feel the opposite will be the outcome.. Well said Al. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mikeysmopars] #1991961 01/16/16 02:24 PM 01/16/16 02:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,561 yarnell,az M mopacltd pro stock
mopacltd pro stock M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,561 yarnell,az	I attended the event in 2014. It had a poor showing then and for the money spent, just was not a fun deal. My brother and I packed up and left very early Sunday morning. Now being a vs. the world thing we have decided not to attend this one either. Hey MoparBilly.....what happened to that marathon running physique. Last edited by mopacltd; 01/16/16 02:25 PM.

Re: OK so now that it out there, MATS [Re: mopacltd] #1991986 01/16/16 02:52 PM 01/16/16 02:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	I hear what Al and others are saying.......WHO GIVES A CHIT who`s in the other lane it`s a RACE already........... Like I said, I don`t bracket race, am too fast for my safety gear and wont slow my junk down so for ME it makes no sense but for YOU guys it makes total sense to try and smash the guy/girl in the other lane regardless....... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

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