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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1958685
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Jesel or Westcott can supply any kind of cam core you'd need. If 900hp on most dynos with a N/A 400" R5/P7 is the goal, it wouldn't be difficult and could be done on somewhat of a budget. Getting 1100hp+ with a N/A 400" R5/P7 will get spendy, no different than doing the same thing with a SBC. A current new competitive Comp Elim. small block fetches 100k-125k, depending on who you write the check to.

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1963899
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What kind of hp does 164.50mph at 2860 lbs. with an automatic equate to?

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: LSP] #1963995
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Originally Posted By LSP
What kind of hp does 164.50mph at 2860 lbs. with an automatic equate to?


Mighty close to 1000


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: B3422W5] #1963998
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Wallace Racing calculator says 1019 hp.


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1964024
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What does Al Carps FS/B Challenger weigh? 3200? It holds the FS/B record with a 8.54 @ 157. 426 Gen III. Ray said something about NHRA only allowing .675 lift at the valve too lol.

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Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1964062
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FS/B:
ยท Index: 10.35
ยท Naturally Aspirated entries only
o Entries up to 400 CID must weigh a minimum of 3,250 lbs.
o Entries up to 430 CID must weigh a minimum of 3,350 lbs.

that was August 2014....


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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 70AARcuda] #1987143
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My w8 engine on dyno today.

Cast intake one 1250 carb.

411 CI

My other w8 engine is from engine masters 2011
Made 750 Hp on this same dyno and has been 8.90s 150mph at 2915lbs

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1987165
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HELL YEAH!! VERY IMPRESSIVE!!

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: W5DART66] #1987173
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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1987234
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Had a really good time today, could have made another dozen pulls on it changing stuff. Congrats Brett that is one seriously mean wedge you built.

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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1987248
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Yes big thanks to Brad Tory and Brandon
For the help today
Thanks Rider race engines for letting me sneak in on the dyno๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: W5DART66] #1987251
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And now the chassis tuning begins biggrin

Glad to see it is off the Dyno and happy, and making power bow



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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: Just-a-dart] #1987260
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All the time and dedication shows....... Nice work

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1987272
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Awesome Brett, so what would the engine cost?


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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: sixpackgut] #1987284
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BIG dollars but it costs a lot less when you do the work yourself and sure gives you a good feeling in your belly. I'm not big on DYNO numbers but even unfactored numbers got to be sky high. GREAT job Brett. I think Josh (monster Mopar) better start closing the giveaways to these small blocks. They are great engines with heads flowing better or very close to all the available big block heads.


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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1987292
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I can't give a price,but I can give advice..Brett shared every single detail and looked for better prices which is way above and beyond while doing my engine.
Great job Brett I'm happy you finally got yours done.

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: 408strokerdart] #1987306
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shots fired!! shots fired!! laugh2 can't wait to see the "in car" performance this spring!

Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: J_BODY] #1987435
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I don't know what I have in this engine.

Don't want to know lol

But you do not need some of the spendy stuff that's in this engine to make. The power.

I think it could be done for $28000-30000 for all new parts.

Shop around take your time I think it can be done for $15000-20000 with the right used parts.

The best way is used w8 top end as most of it out in the world is way to small for drag race engine.

So it's easy to fix them right up๐Ÿ˜œ

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Re: Cost of 900 hp in a N/A small block? [Re: W5DART66] #1987479
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bow Now thar's awesome! Nice job !

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