Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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It looks like they mount in a similar fashion at the axle, however the action arm on the Hellwig units looks substantially longer in pics. Do you have a bar you could measure? Distance at all 3 mounting holes would be good. I could do the same when I get home. All the A bodies are at the house right now.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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I got 12" from center to center of forward most hole and 10" rear most hole so the middle hole must be at 11". My bar is Hellwig #6908 and the A-body model is #6807.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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12/17/15 10:58 AM
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What is the rate compared to the 3/4 bar? Thicker doesn't mean stiffer. ??????, are we talking rates, or material properties?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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For simple reference, our A-body sway bar is stiffer than the B-body bar.
A-body rates: - 230 lbs/in - 265 lbs/in - 310 lbs/in
B-Body: - 150 lbs/in - 180 lbs/in - 220 lbs/in
Also, material choice does not affect the rate of the bar; a chromoly bar will have the same rate as a mild steel bar. Different materials are used for their bending properties for when the bars are shaped on the bender.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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Does not matter what the Hotchkis bar does in my case because it wouldn't work with my inboard springs, where the Hellwig does.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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Rick I think those are the rear sways in each of the three adjustment holes. Jon do you have rates for the two different front Hotchkis A Bars?
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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Tommy is right, those rate I posted were for the rear.
Fronts are a bit of an apple to oranges comparison really since they mount and attach differently:
67-72: 700lbs/in. '73+: 375lbs/in.
Unfortunately I do not have the motion ratios for the lower arms in front of me to calculate the wheel rates.
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Re: Need advice, what parts to use for an A body open track car
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When Aaron and I talked about this, then different mounting locations equalized the rate; however, the earlier bar allowed more control because of the longer action. That sounds about right from the arm lengths and attachment points.
Hotchkis Performance 8633 Sorensen Ave. Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670 Phone: 562-907-7757 x224 Fax: 562-907-7765
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