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Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: mokid] #1972742
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Originally Posted By mokid
I can tell you who not to go to, Don't go to High Speed Welding in Chicago they are clueless, don't go to Andy McCoy Chassis in Washington Mo. unless you want your front wheels to break off mid-track,



Thanks for the heads-up. That sounds bad.


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Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972858
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struts and be done

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: mokid] #1972870
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Originally Posted By mokid
I can tell you who not to go to, Don't go to High Speed Welding in Chicago they are clueless, don't go to Andy McCoy Chassis in Washington Mo. unless you want your front wheels to break off mid-track,


Is High Speed Welding the same as the old High Speed Salvage that used to advertise the 2 sbc motors welded together? If it is, you are absolutely right. I would buy a done up [censored] car before having them do anything to my car.


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Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972872
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this is it

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Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: a493demon] #1972889
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Originally Posted By a493demon
this is it

I LIKE THIS. Who made the lower arm?

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972890
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

I really like this idea as with other projects it would keep costs down. What do you think of this system Doug as I could get rid of the tortion bars, use my brakes, free up some room, and have some more adjust-ability. I would still have to deal with bump steer but from the way you sound its doable.


http://www.gerstsuspensions.com/coil-over-conversion-kit.html


Has anyone ran this ^^? I wonder how much travel it has at the wheel?

I have to say I like the looks of the LCA arms in a493demons photos though.

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972921
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J body does your K bolt in or welded to the car?

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: cudaman1969] #1972930
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By a493demon
this is it

I LIKE THIS. Who made the lower arm?

To be honest I'm not sure .
Think the guy I got it from said they might be CAP but not I'm sure .

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972932
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It kinda looks like the old Dillinger Chassis stuff that's no longer available

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972936
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I was thinking the same

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972937
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I been using bills Alterkation for 6 years with zero problems i've gone 8.11 at 167 with 1.117 60 foot i can't say enough how well his parts work he's also a great guy to deal with.

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: DavidDean] #1972947
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Originally Posted By Leon441
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I agree that's what I have . Very nice piece . A friend here in Texas saw mine and got one for his Dart.
Same here Bobs Pro Fab and you can use your brakes

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: SpareParts] #1972954
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Originally Posted By SpareParts
J body does your K bolt in or welded to the car?


bolt in. I asked him about selling them as a "kit" years ago, but he wasn't interested.... and as Mike said, remember.... this is a RACE CAR. He wasn't too keen on using it for any street use although he said he could build something that he felt would be more "robust" for that duty.

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: J_BODY] #1972967
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Alterkation on the fish for years with no issues...7.70's in the 1/4 coasting thru and drives like a dream...Also Bill is a great guy to do business with !!

BobsProFab on the Dart and after many miles of driving on the street it's a cats meow...Sure it will be great at the track also and Bob is another good one to do business with !!

Quite frankly there's lots of good option's these days !!
Tory Shellenhammer..(spl)
Hemi Denny (HDK)
Gerst...New to the market but looks good !!
And I'm sure there's others !!!

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1972981
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Coincidentally this is a 74 duster. I was looking at the same thing to lower the car and use better headers. The choice I made was quite a bit of work, but the key components are actually cheaper than any complete bolt on tubular k member kit that I could find.

[url=[URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jkathe/media/20151213_130656.jpg.html][/url]

]photobucket[/url] I did have most of the material already on hand, but the strut kit w/brakes, rack, header kit dont cost all that much in comparison.

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1973003
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I like struts but my rules say stock style front suspension. Has to bolt in the stock mounting points. I'm working on something again but no results yet

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1973033
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Originally Posted By Jerry Kathe
Coincidentally this is a 74 duster. I was looking at the same thing to lower the car and use better headers. The choice I made was quite a bit of work, but the key components are actually cheaper than any complete bolt on tubular k member kit that I could find.

[url=[URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jkathe/media/20151213_130656.jpg.html][/url]

]photobucket[/url] I did have most of the material already on hand, but the strut kit w/brakes, rack, header kit dont cost all that much in comparison.

Looks like an old South Bend with a lot of levers

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1973079
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What's the cost of a Bob's pro fab? It looks pretty straight forward, lots of it resembles stuff my local circle track shop carries... btw check out Lefthander Chassis' website for odds and ends, amazing amount of stuff there

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Spareparts; I believe his entry level package started at 3600 for what I wanted about a year ago, very nice quality....but....I spent 1800 in the struts (with brakes and lower control arm kit), 270 in the rack and about 250 in misc stuff like column parts and so on. Granted it doesn't bolt on, may be illegal in some classes and not everyone has fabrication abilities or resources, but it was an easy decision for me and the end product is much better suited for my needs.

Cudaman1969; that is a 1954 MONARCH MACHINE lathe, its an oldie but makes chips just as good as any other I've ever used - lol.

Re: What front-end system system would you go with? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1973158
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Apologies for the Hi-jacking, I've been looking at this too. What has always concerned me is how they match the rear suspension, for example, if you are using Caltracs, can you get the recommended rise / extension of 5 inches? (IIRC)


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