Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: 6pkaar]
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11/26/15 02:46 AM
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I'd LOVE to have the car assembled to be able to document all of the markings. Unfortunarely I got it after disassembly, sand blasted and in primer. NOTHING left of the original to document. I would probably just not use any, but do what makes you happy. I wonder now how many of these cars are going to have the exact same nice bright markings on them? It's going to be almost comical !
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/26/15 04:41 AM
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Not only that, most reproduced paint markings I've seen are WAY over done, too thick, gloppy, and shiny. Most originals were rather thin and runny, on the dull side, as if a very watered down/thin paint or ink was used. Man ... do you got that right!
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: 6pkaar]
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11/26/15 12:25 PM
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I was at Roger Gibson's years ago and he had Tupperware boxes full of photos of original markings and such arranged by model, year, and plant. What a wealth of info. Of course, that wouldn't tell you how your car was marked. But still cool.
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: RJS]
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11/26/15 02:37 PM
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The OP asked a specific question but most want to correct him. I answered his question and now it's up to him to do it how he wants. The E-body example about flat hoods turned Shaker left the barn about 20 years ago! Ron Best answer above, Ignore those telling you what not to do, something is better than nothing if factory appearing is what you want:
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: 6pkaar]
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11/26/15 06:30 PM
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Automakers worked more than one shift, Joe was right handed, while Andy was left handed and had more of a slant with his markings , Sam was taking a break most of the night. Take your pick for the correct markings if any are really correct.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: rowin4]
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11/27/15 12:10 PM
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Automakers worked more than one shift, Joe was right handed, while Andy was left handed and had more of a slant with his markings , Sam was taking a break most of the night. Take your pick for the correct markings if any are really correct. my opinion is this on markings: if you have no documentation[pics on tear down] and some what of an idea what markings are needed[provided none were missed, or frank just didn't care and didn't bother to do his job marking as was needed], then do not "copy" a picture in a book, just use the same paint color and mark in your own style as if that was your job at that time in history. just do it once. thick, thin, heavy, light, however it comes out will be ok. probably be as correct as anything out there. and if you miss something, well maybe "you" was out goofing off or taking an extra long lunch that day..........
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: 6pkaar]
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11/27/15 03:12 PM
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Good plan above. The marks were to draw attention to things for many reasons; Not torqued torqued and done re-cecked like was mentioned in last weeks shop meeting, etc marked a certain color for a certain torque to be done later when the wrench was available. To draw attention to bad threads the won't move, need repairs, etc. Then there are fluids,that are full, not full, missing the SG lube because his empty jug. Then there are the artists leaving their mark on things to keep themselves amused, or sending messages to others down the line, etc. Then there is the new guys, or the guys that are bring watched by the boss, taking time to do it by the book. So this will change the final product over the guy that is having fun, wasting time, on lunch, etc.
I have seen the overdone marks and agree. The nuts painted 360 degrees around on every surface, did they stand there and do that for 3minutes each on 6 nuts? Possible, but not probable.
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Re: Markings book on "Graveyard Carz"
[Re: 6pkaar]
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11/27/15 03:56 PM
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Have often thought how ironic, cars restored to the nines with the correct nuts at 5 bucks each on the throttle linkage, the correct air filter on a six pac, painted stamps/markings all about,,,and the car sitting there in all its glory with an over the top, color sanded 2 stage 20K plus paint job and door gaps that Bentley might die for.
Attend an NCRS Vette event once for further information, you will see that Mopar's have some catching up to do,,,but closing in fast.
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