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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: LYNCHROAD69.5]
#195734
01/17/09 01:46 AM
01/17/09 01:46 AM
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NoVa
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Looks outstanding Wayne. Wow!  I don't see any obvious reason why you can't install everything you mentioned - (finger tight wherever service manual suggests.) Keep the upper control arms bolted in place yet 'loose' so that you can you use a floor jack (that is padded to protect them pretty gold arms of yours  ) to raise/lower the lower arms as needed to help the knuckle meet the upper ball joints square in their holes. More advice would be to get more opinions here first as I've never gone from beneath yet either. Best of luck, you're gonna do just fine from the looks of it! Nick
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: Publicbottle]
#195736
01/17/09 09:54 AM
01/17/09 09:54 AM
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Iowa
burdar
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pardon my ignorance for i have never done this method before either, but why even have the front end installed and just do it after the "K" is bolted up?
You could install the suspension after the engine is installed but it's easier to get to everything before hand. That way you don't take the chance of messing up the paint on the body if you slip with a wrench.
The factory had most everything installed on on the k-member before it was installed in the car.
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: burdar]
#195737
01/17/09 10:06 AM
01/17/09 10:06 AM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1
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pardon my ignorance for i have never done this method before either, but why even have the front end installed and just do it after the "K" is bolted up?
You could install the suspension after the engine is installed but it's easier to get to everything before hand. That way you don't take the chance of messing up the paint on the body if you slip with a wrench.
The factory had most everything installed on on the k-member before it was installed in the car.
It's much easier to install the K without the lower arms hanging there and it is no trouble to install them after the K is in place. No risk in nicking the paint IMO. Done it a couple times.
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: burdar]
#195738
01/17/09 10:57 AM
01/17/09 10:57 AM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
anlauto
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NO NO NO...I disagree with the above posters... You're on the right track...You can bolt the entire spindal assembly to the lower control arms, brake and all. Then bolt the upper control arms to the car... One major mistake that I've seen that you've made so far is the absence of the transmission cooling lines... You can continue with all the wiring harnesses, transmission crossmember, heater hoses, upper rad hose, pos battery cable, etc... as well Great job, keep up the great work, and I can assure you that you'll never put an engine in through the top EVER again.  I've been doing it that way for 15+ years with dozens of cars...you'll be amazed at how you can install your complete engine/trans/suspension/brakes in 20 minutes 
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: Challenger 1]
#195739
01/17/09 11:04 AM
01/17/09 11:04 AM
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Lee Co. Fla.
5carguy
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I have installed engine/transmission assys. from the bottom many times, and I agree with what others are saying.The one thing you must do is install the steering gear on the K frame.Much easier now than after the installation.  Good luck. Bob
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: anlauto]
#195740
01/17/09 11:18 AM
01/17/09 11:18 AM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1
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NO NO NO...I disagree with the above posters...
You're on the right track...You can bolt the entire spindal assembly to the lower control arms, brake and all. Then bolt the upper control arms to the car...
One major mistake that I've seen that you've made so far is the absence of the transmission cooling lines...
You can continue with all the wiring harnesses, transmission crossmember, heater hoses, upper rad hose, pos battery cable, etc... as well
Great job, keep up the great work, and I can assure you that you'll never put an engine in through the top EVER again.
I've been doing it that way for 15+ years with dozens of cars...you'll be amazed at how you can install your complete engine/trans/suspension/brakes in 20 minutes
Ok I'll buy what your saying. One thing I forgot was the throttle pressure linkage for the tranny. Like what Alan said, bolt everything to the motor ahead of time.
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: cdp]
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01/17/09 11:24 AM
01/17/09 11:24 AM
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: cdp]
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01/17/09 11:26 AM
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: anlauto]
#195745
01/17/09 11:44 AM
01/17/09 11:44 AM
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It's a dry heat
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NO NO NO...I disagree with the above posters...
You're on the right track...You can bolt the entire spindal assembly to the lower control arms, brake and all. Then bolt the upper control arms to the car...
One major mistake that I've seen that you've made so far is the absence of the transmission cooling lines...
You can continue with all the wiring harnesses, transmission crossmember, heater hoses, upper rad hose, pos battery cable, etc... as well
Great job, keep up the great work, and I can assure you that you'll never put an engine in through the top EVER again.
I've been doing it that way for 15+ years with dozens of cars...you'll be amazed at how you can install your complete engine/trans/suspension/brakes in 20 minutes
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As suggested - put the spindles, steering box and trans lines on as suggested and set the assy on padded stands , lift the body over it ( carefully ) and set it right down on it from above ( carefully and slowly)
When I did my cahllenger I had everything on the engine, heater hoses, a/c compressor,exhaust manifolds, fan and all pulleys, and engine wiring.
Piece of cake
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Re: Motor Installation From Underneath
[Re: anlauto]
#195751
01/18/09 02:30 PM
01/18/09 02:30 PM
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Penguin Country
moepwr
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I had the upper control arms and the spindles mounted when I did mine. Also my first time. I had the lower control arm in for the install. It does work very well. I just thought it was easier to have as much together as possible. After the motor and tranny install when you install the torsion bars remember to have some load(as little as possible) on the lower control arms. This allow for the maximum adjustment. Good luck There are pictures in my signature site under motor and install.
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Lol.
Your points a very valid, I never noticed the absence of the steering box..THAT IS A MUST !
