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73 Barracuda race car weight #1944052
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Toying with the idea of using my 73 barracuda for a race car. I don't want to cut the car up so as to be non streetable in the future (I was doing the pro-street thing) I have taken the guard beams out of the doors but the windows will stay. I guess set up like a stocker is the way I'm thinking. No wipers or heater,racing seats,striped out dash. Been tubbed, frames connected, roll bar, fuel cell. Glass hood, cal-trac Dana. You guys that have cars like this, how much do they weigh? How light can they be? Can I get it down to around 3000 lbs? I can do SB or BB auto. Any info or direction would be helpful.

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Stripped down, steel body, 6 point, frame connectors, tubs, glass hood, SS springs, 440, Hemi box & scattershield, Dana, my 'Cuda weighed 3150 ready to race.


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Re: 73 Barracuda race car weight [Re: cudaman1969] #1944095
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my 72 is 3132 without me, full dash, interior, subframes and 4 point bar, it does have a pin on glass hood. back braced 8 3/4 not tubbed, all factory glass, carpet etc.

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Originally Posted By upnover
my 72 is 3132 without me, full dash, interior, subframes and 4 point bar, it does have a pin on glass hood. back braced 8 3/4 not tubbed, all factory glass, carpet etc.

You say "interior" that mean factory seats,front and back?
What engine?

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Re: 73 Barracuda race car weight [Re: cudaman1969] #1944140
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racing seats in the front, factory rear seat, factory dash, console, carpet, headliner, sunvisors. 512 bb based on a 400, alum heads, water pump, water pump housing etc. ive had to work hard to get it that light but it can be done.

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The wife's 73. Full interior, no heater, 512 BB/727, 83/4, driver and, spare tire, 3475 lbs 11.50 street car. She won't let me tune the engine because she will not put a bar in the car.

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Originally Posted By Digger73
The wife's 73. Full interior, no heater, 512 BB/727, 83/4, driver and, spare tire, 3475 lbs 11.50 street car. She won't let me tune the engine because she will not put a bar in the car.

Digger73 (Mike)

Looks good, my color. radial tire? Suspension?

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Weighted some componites last nite. K-frame-40 lbs, complete hub-disc-caliper,upper and lower arms-75 lbs each side. Doors with nothing in them 58 lbs, window and remaining door parts 40 lbs. didn't weight fenders yet but I'm guessing 40-60 lbs. optimistic about losing a bit of weight off the car without changing its integrity. Thanks for all the input so far folks, very helpful.

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Our 73 Challenger stocker we raced in G the min.wt.is 3525 at the last race it weighed 3660. We took the car apart last week and all the ballast was 410 lb so race ready with 210 lb driver would be 3250 3040 w/o driver. Car had all light weight stuff,wheels,brakes,rear ect. but had production seats front and rear and complete doors and dash. Check out Buckner Boys Racing on facebook for pictures

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Re: 73 Barracuda race car weight [Re: cudaman1969] #1944475
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My '70 cuda is about 3600# w/o driver. It's a tank.
The only weight reduction is aluminum wheels, Aerospace front disc brakes, a fiberglass hood (a heavy bolt on), and I removed the heater box.
ALL factory interior is in place, nothing cut out, and it has a 10 point cage.
Manual steering and brakes, 727 trans, Dana on leaf springs, and an all aluminum hemi (weighs the same as an iron block aluminum head 440).


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Re: 73 Barracuda race car weight [Re: cudaman1969] #1944544
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By Digger73
The wife's 73. Full interior, no heater, 512 BB/727, 83/4, driver and, spare tire, 3475 lbs 11.50 street car. She won't let me tune the engine because she will not put a bar in the car.

Digger73 (Mike)

Looks good, my color. radial tire? Suspension?


Thanks for the compliment. The rears are Hoosier QT pros 27 x 11.5. The suspension is all stock up front and the rear is Mopar heavy duty leafs with Caltracks with air shocks.
The biggest weight savings we did was to remove the extremely heavy front bumper inner structure and the outer bumper mount bracket. we do have an aluminum radiator, water pump\housing and, aluminum brake master cylinder. We still have all the glass and regulators.

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Mine was 3230lbs with an iron block Hemi...We now have an aluminum 605 Hemi.... Standard roll bar, race seats, no back seats, no wipers, no heater box, MF front k-frame, and FG hood, full carpeting....Dana 60 with a spool and leaf springs and Wilwoods on all corners...We are thnking one run in the mid 9's and then we slow it down to 10.0's...



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Re: 73 Barracuda race car weight [Re: sgcuda] #1944655
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Stripped down, steel body, 6 point, frame connectors, tubs, glass hood, SS springs, 440, Hemi box & scattershield, Dana, my 'Cuda weighed 3150 ready to race.

What would the weight difference be between the four speed-bell and a auto?

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I'd have to guess that the A/T would weigh 75 pounds less than a four speed set up. Closer to 100 pounds on mine, since I had a Lakewood shield.


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73 Barracuda fiberglass fenders and hood steel bumpers and doors with stock glass 8 point cage racing buckets no defroster dana no tubs super stock springs small roller cammed 55 over 440 with cast iron -1s two optima batteries 3100lbs low 10.20s

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motorhead446 on the board here is making me some aluminum bumper brackets front and rear for my 72, you might check with him

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Originally Posted By evenflow
73 Barracuda fiberglass fenders and hood steel bumpers and doors with stock glass 8 point cage racing buckets no defroster dana no tubs super stock springs small roller cammed 55 over 440 with cast iron -1s two optima batteries 3100lbs low 10.20s

3100, just car or you in it?

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Originally Posted By upnover
motorhead446 on the board here is making me some aluminum bumper brackets front and rear for my 72, you might check with him

That's one of the things I've been looking at. Also aluminum door hinges,cross member, wing mounts instead of engine mounts, lighter steering column, brake pedal, all this stuff would add up quick. Free hp, well cheaper maybe.

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Mine 3350 give or take,had a few xtra bars installed sense the last time I weigh it sawzall weld anyway that's race weight stock body,glass hood,stock frame rails,tub back to the frame rails,BB with -1 heads,stock front suspension/ladder bars in the back.Best so far 9.40@142 wave

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Originally Posted By racerx
Mine 3350 give or take,had a few xtra bars installed sense the last time I weigh it sawzall weld anyway that's race weight stock body,glass hood,stock frame rails,tub back to the frame rails,BB with -1 heads,stock front suspension/ladder bars in the back.Best so far 9.40@142 wave

Are the e-body's aerodynamic at that mph and above? Anything needed as the mph goes up? Not saying I'll be in that territory, but who knows.

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