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Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? #1934875
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Looking at getting a custom grind on a billet cam. Who have you used and had the best results?

Do all of the cam makers come up with the same results when given the specs they need?


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1934912
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I had a Comp grind a turbo cam for me. I had in my hand 3 days after ordering.

Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1934931
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I've used crower and cam motion.

So far, the cam motion has been great and I haven't started the crower yet.


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1934949
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Comp Cams, especially on custom grinds thumbs Thay seem to have the biggest selection of lobes of any of the better cam companys out there, I'm sure thier doing constant R&D also scope twocents

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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1934950
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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1934991
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I started using Cam Motion in 1998 and still do, but as of late we have had some differences of opinion on certain parameters but I will still say they are number one for grinding what you ask for. Garbage in, garbage out. You can't fudge numbers.

I still use Racer Brown a BUNCH because Jim and I see eye to eye on so much that it makes it hard not to at least get his numbers and see what he says. You can't BS Jim. My current project is using one of RB's grinds. He had the balls to hear me out, correct my erroneous thinking, and grind something dang close to what I thought I should have.

Jones Cams. Mike Jones is a smart dude. Have dyno'd a bunch of his stuff and it works. He has different ways of "skinning the cat", but the cat gets skinned .

Those would be my top 3 in any order, most likey I would chose the one who you "get on" with the best on the phone. I go by my gut. Also remember my gut is pretty old.


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935017
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Dwayne Porter ground my custom cam for me and everyone I know with his cams are very happy. Ron

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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935050
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What part of your tune up is such a departure from competitive engines that the cam has to be different?


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935056
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I changed the compression and I'm not roundy round racing, so I figured I'd call and find out what a custom grind would look like for my application. Then compare to my current grind. If it's not much different then I'd stick with what I have. If there is quite a discrepancy then I'd probably check with another company and see if their results are the same, if so then I'd opt for a custom grind.


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935061
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Called a few companies. Many didn't know what an R5 was. Bullit has a guy who did all EEI Cams at comp. Howard's has Mikee who ground all Cams at Arrington. I have a couple predators for R5. Main thing is people who know the engine first. Then who grinds good Cams.


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935069
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Did you notice much of a difference between a NASCAR cam and your custom grind on paper or real world results?


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935476
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I have had really good dealings with Chris Straub / Straub Technologies. He was effortless to work with, pricing was fair and he's more than capable of making the results happen. I will also say that his customer service post-purchase is fantastic.

Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: Criterion] #1935677
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I had a Cody Williams at Comp give me this recommendation for a 505" stroker with ported Stealth's. Gave him all the info. and couldn't belive what I got back!?

This is what he recommended:

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=730&sb=2

Lost all faith in them after this B.S.!

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That is the problem with comp. Unless you are "somebody" in the "biz" you just can't call and get ahold of anyone but a salesman, who picks cams from the same catalog or web site you can.

For the brave and daring (or the guys who are testing crap all day long) you can call comp and pick lobes out of the lobe profiles and put them together and have it ground. Me, being a nobody, tried it once, but the salesman convinced me it wouldn't work. Called someone else who custom did a cam and the lobes were pretty much what I picked from comp.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: madscientist] #1935698
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Originally Posted By madscientist
That is the problem with comp. Unless you are "somebody" in the "biz" you just can't call and get ahold of anyone but a salesman, who picks cams from the same catalog or web site you can.

For the brave and daring (or the guys who are testing crap all day long) you can call comp and pick lobes out of the lobe profiles and put them together and have it ground. Me, being a nobody, tried it once, but the salesman convinced me it wouldn't work. Called someone else who custom did a cam and the lobes were pretty much what I picked from comp.


I've ran bigger cams than that what he recommended in a stock stroke, stock head motor!

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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: d7cook] #1935707
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I mainly use Tim Goolsby at Bullet (dealt with/have an account him for years and years going back to the Ultradyne days)...but I pretty much know what I want in terms of powerband/lift and duration based on cubes/headflows/Compression/gearing/stall and weight...and he helps pick the right lobe and spring requirements for how I intend to use the motor.

AND I would NEVER HESITATE to call Dwayne Porter (Fast68Plymouth) and get a Comp custom grind through him. Countless times we've come up with near identical grinds for Moparts applications. Guys would PM me and ask about a grind they either just bought from him (or were about to buy) and I think every time Dwayne picks the same basic grind, right down to the lobe spread and ICL. We must be kin somehow I think.

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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935736
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X2 - someone who has done great work with those cylinder heads will know what they want for a cam.


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Re: Custom Cams Grinds, Who do you have the best luck with? [Re: DemonDust] #1935820
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I would bet that those nascar engines would be better left alone--yes..they are very high RPM packages that have it all moved up to the top--makes them hard to get a good drag race converter dialed in but...they are so well designed -to the point where I would think you would really screw up the combo asking some outfit that may have very little experience with that engine --for drag race use-- to make a good decision on a new grind
I bet it goes backwards with new cam and that you have to start all over again with converter selection--again--very few converter builders with enough drag race experience with those engines.
They are everywhere and cheap--my neighbor has one that is running great in a drag car but that was after a hard season and Lots of $$$$$ spent on converters.
What do you hope to gain? And is a cam the way to make that gain? I bet converter is best way to attack going faster.
All that being said I would call Arrington and stick with whatever they say
just my two cents worth

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