Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
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10/02/15 09:56 PM
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I have the first aluminum 9.600 xr2 that I am doing now.Hope to post some on here of it as we make progress.
3120lb, small block, 10.5" tire, NA, through exhaust, full int, WITH 83/4 REAR, 9.0 at 150mph
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
[Re: 69 lawndart]
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10/02/15 10:46 PM
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That's super cool, hope it works out for you. Should be mean!
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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10/02/15 11:02 PM
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That's super cool, hope it works out for you. Should be mean! Thanks Brad.I hope it works out good too.I was told the aluminum block doesn't have the core shift like the cast blocks.
3120lb, small block, 10.5" tire, NA, through exhaust, full int, WITH 83/4 REAR, 9.0 at 150mph
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
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I for one would like to see everyone make a go of these blocks.if kent and everyone else involved with these are at least willing to invest their time and money to come up with a viable solution to mopar not being able to supply blocks for the performance side then I applaud their efforts.sure with his stockpile of parts he stands to make financial gain but they are the ones that stuck their necks out to get this far.nothing that is as innovative as trying to do a block to cover such a broad array of heads and combos will come without large growing pains but without a couple brave souls who work thru these problems nothing will be accomplished.maybe the ones who have been there and done that can help others who are willing to give it a go .we will see how things work out and be more than helpful to others who try if we can but I wanted to see what kind of money it would take to get it to a running block.. so far it doesnt look bad... drain back seems to be the big issue... I'd like to see how they corrected that... the pick up issue is nothing.. but glad it was brought up so people know of it
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
[Re: StrokerAspen]
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Good luck on it! If you have any questions feel free to give my old man a call as we have finished up our alluminum ritter block engine. The last issue we had, and hopefully we can help you avoid with yours was oil drain back to the pan from the valley. The enclosed cam tunnel with small drain backs is not enough and after a short time on the engine dyno the pan was empty. We had to disassemble it, and put better drain back passages in it, and it is happy now. A lot of hours chewed up though.
Wayne @ Joss Engines. 1-403-320-7272
-Kenny. I think you should disclose all the issues with the block as soon as possible like now.. this would help those that are trying to build succeed.
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
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10/05/15 02:55 PM
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What is the weight of the aluminum block with main caps and a ball park price? I wonder if this would be good for a road race block....
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
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10/09/15 05:48 PM
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Good luck on it! If you have any questions feel free to give my old man a call as we have finished up our alluminum ritter block engine. The last issue we had, and hopefully we can help you avoid with yours was oil drain back to the pan from the valley. The enclosed cam tunnel with small drain backs is not enough and after a short time on the engine dyno the pan was empty. We had to disassemble it, and put better drain back passages in it, and it is happy now. A lot of hours chewed up though.
Wayne @ Joss Engines. 1-403-320-7272
-Kenny. I think you should disclose all the issues with the block as soon as possible like now.. this would help those that are trying to build succeed. I will do what I can next week hopefully. What is the weight of the aluminum block with main caps and a ball park price? I wonder if this would be good for a road race block.... Shipping weight was 94lbs. with no sleeves in the block. IIRC the price was similar to an R3 with out the sleeves in the XR block. -Kenny
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block
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10/29/15 10:16 PM
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We are still talking about lifter valley drainback?
The R2 and R3 blocks had no drainbackbuilt in. It's not the enclosed tunnels fault. On the R blocks you can expose the cam and the oil drains on the spinning assembly if that's OK with the builder. On R5 or the XR blocks you have to open the bottom of the cam tunnel as well with wet sump. The R5's have been converted using 3/4" holes on either side of cam bearings to drain oil.
On R block I drained around distributor and using stock drain holes to drain behind belt drive. Trick is the heads need to drain seperate with that limited drainback around lifter valley. Haven't seen that on R5 or XR. I run R5 with dry sump, haven't needed to experiment this.
If you like swiming in oil, limit your drainback and add oil to keep from starving, NOT. Don't skimp making drainback passages. Wonder if anyone ever thought of plumbing a secondary pickup plumbed to rear of cam tunnel. May be a disaster. May work.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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