Hidden vin #s
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I have a 1970 340 swinger that has the #s matching block in it for sale. A guy is very interested in it but wants it to be a #s matching car. I was never concerned about that and didn't represent it as such, but with him being interested I would like to know if it is the original body. Can any 1 tell me where to find #s to prove or disprove that? Thanks Dave
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 01:45 PM
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Yeah, thanks doll face lol. Scott, are they lightly stamped or difficult to find? We pulled the package tray and HE didn't see them. I have also heard they are on the trunk gasket rail, but what I found there is a part # I believe as the 2 rails had the even/odd # on the left and right and did not match any #s on the data plate or build sheet which I have. The thing that leads us to believe it isn't the original body is the color of the paint under the carpet, package tray etc, and an air conditioning firewall, but after 45 yrs who knows what occurred earlier in this cars life. I have owned it since 1996 and though you most likely don't remember istarted a hemi dart clone project which you helped me decifer and sell the warranty block I acquired for it. That was in 2004 or 2005. I have finished the clone and drive it most of the time, which is why the 70 swinger is for sale. I average about 1500 miles a yr on the clone and have put 2000 total on the swinger. Thanks again for any and all help
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 01:56 PM
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They changed the location of the VIN number in 1970 from the trunk lip rail to the package tray as show in Scott's picture since they shortened the trunk rail due to the quarter panel end cap.
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 02:53 PM
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After reading this post I looked at mine, it's apart. Heavily stamped, 1inch above driver side speaker hole looking toward the back glass. I have a Duster
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 04:08 PM
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VIN isn't there on any Dart 23 series body I've ever seen. The package tray is correct for a Duster, Demon or Dart Sport.
If it has a rear stamping, it should be in the trunk lip area about where the tail stripe would run. Most I've seen have been on the pass side. Never seen ANY VIN stampings on the passenger side!?!
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 06:32 PM
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VIN isn't there on any Dart 23 series body I've ever seen. The package tray is correct for a Duster, Demon or Dart Sport.
If it has a rear stamping, it should be in the trunk lip area about where the tail stripe would run. Most I've seen have been on the pass side. Never seen ANY VIN stampings on the passenger side!?! Would that throw into question your expert qualifications? Every single 70 Dart I have/had ALL have the pass side trunk stamping. Since the question is specific to 70's.
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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Approx. location on the rail? Hate to strip the rail as I don't have much paint left for touch-up
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Re: Hidden vin #s
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10/04/15 11:20 PM
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Assuming under the gasket like on a B, yo can usually see it from the back side, generally not able to read it but can tell you where to stripe it.
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