Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/19/15 08:42 PM
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The tire will grow at speed, you will have more than a cracked paint problem at 1/4" . You can't move the rear back on the spring that way. You can move the rear back by spacing the front spring to body mount back with a 1/2" spacer plate, not just nuts for spacers. Caution ,you will need longer bolts, check rear end to gas tank clearance, brake line hose length , drive shaft shouldn't be a problem at 1/2"
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/19/15 10:44 PM
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I want these to fit real bad. And they do but the front of the tire is 1/4" away from the wheel well. Everywhere else there is good clearance. I tried rolling a wood dowell in between tire and quarter panel to massage the lip of the wheel well back a 1/2" or so but the paint stated cracking... That was dumb huh.
Question. Can the rear end be moved back 1/2"? I've never messed with that. Looks like it should but there is a nut exactly in the center of the spring that the axle perch is centered on. I'm guessing no?
Please tell me If I would be stupid to run it like this. Nothing hits when I bounce the rear of the car... Just assume at speed the tire might stand up a little taller then I'm screwed.
Opinions please.
BTW these are 295/65/15 drag radials
A-B-E body? They made some spring brackets for E-body's to use with super stock springs that where longer( back to bolt hole) could have some one drill new holes that would space the tire back what you need for clearance.
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/20/15 02:52 AM
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Can the rear end be moved back 1/2"? Yes, you can redrill the horizontle (2) side holes rearward in each front shackle. you can space the front shackle rearward. If going those routes keep track of the angle of the rear shackles and you can redrill a new vertical hole thru the leafs & relocate the thru bolt with the round nub in your new hole further rearward in the new hole or drill a new 1/2" hole in the perchs and the shock plate slightly forward so as to move the rear back. as said check brake line flex hose length/shaft end play and it makes installing the shocks slight harder as the angle of the lower shock plate is off some. eyeball your options & see of one of these will work for you. EDIT A combo of two of these might work better than one
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: rowin4]
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09/22/15 11:39 AM
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The tire will grow at speed, you will have more than a cracked paint problem at 1/4" . I'm pretty sure that a radial will not grow like a bias ply under the same conditions.
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/22/15 01:44 PM
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You would have to make the spacers . I have never seen any available in any catalog or web site. Could be made out of aluminum also . It shouldn't be hard to make, stop at a metal fab shop ask if the have some scrap material. Those wheels do look good. Hope you get them to work out for you. Also as mentioned above you could re-drill the front spring attachment hole to set it back. A washer welded on each side would strengthen the area.
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/24/15 12:17 AM
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Now the question is the hanger studs. I can't find longer bolts that have that press in ribs, so I'm wondering if I just used hardened hex head bolts? Yes you can, the assembly line uses the press in type bolts so the whole schebang will stay in place moving down the assy line. The large thru bolt/nut has to come off so the front spring eye can be removed to get 2 of the OE studs out (I forget if top or bottom two). You'll run the bolts in the shackle toward the front & get em in before you mount the front shackle to the spring. iirc I dont think I had to shorten the bolt heads to clear the curvature of the spring, mockup & see what you see. keep tabs on the rear hangar vertical angle & the suspension will need to be totally assembled/loaded to see whaere that angle falls at
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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09/25/15 05:14 PM
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I moved mine back 3/4" using a piece of scrap steel. 70 B Body had no gas tank or shock mounting issues. Knock the studs out of the leaf spring mount and replace with grade 8 bolts. 
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/25/15 10:39 PM
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Your on the right track, punch out the studs, get grade 8 bolts of the proper length and bolt it up.
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: moparx]
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09/27/15 01:30 AM
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Well I put the passenger side wheel on and had at least 5/8" clearance. So I thought "huh. Maybe I space one side back and take some measurement so I'm not dog tracking. I undid the drivers side hanger and found the problem...
Broken knuckle on the leaf spring.. Time for new springs. I'm leaning towards SS springs and lose the air shocks. Who knows the best price for Super stock springs?
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Re: Tire clearance- is this enough?
[Re: Whitey Nocar]
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09/27/15 12:57 PM
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I'm leaning towards SS springs and lose the air shocks. Who knows the best price for Super stock springs? I had 003/003 on a 65 dart (came that way as a roller) & when done it ride high and tight. I liked it. With SS springs you want the same #'s on each side for a street app for an even ride. Maybe the 002/002 springs would have less height (if desired) but I had no prob with the 003's. I did have to use shock extensions so it was raised a bit with em but the 14"s looked fine in the wheelwells.
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