If super class racing is soooooooo good, why do a televised National event with that as the only show? Because exactly 89 idiots would watch it. Which is barely less that who is watching National event broadcasts now.

Your myopic, narrow mind will never comprehend that a VAST MAJORITY of spectators (and TV viewers) could give a tinkers damn about throttle stop racing.


Sorry about your butt hurt but time to come to the real world. If losing hood scoops and EFI are the future, then surely the throttle stop classes should be DUMPED from NATIONAL EVENTS. If you need "filler" (which is all that crap is, and it's piss poor filler to boot), use Top Sportsman or some form of heads up or non-throttle stop drag racing.

In reality, drag racing died with the throttle stop. I could say more about that, but the butt hurt would only grow.

The funny thing is I said get rid of PSM too and no one is crying over that?

BTW, how do you know where or how I watch racing? You assumptions make your ignorance the more profound, all because I don't agree with you.

Get real.

I always thought it was mandatory to have the seat anchored to the cross bar.

And some opinions are worth far less than other...Pa dump bump..

Not even gonna touch the comment of those drivers not moving up, it just shows your lack of understanding. If you understood the economics of things you may have a different opinion on your narrow minded outlook on things. Loose those horrible .90 classes and really watch the future of drag racing die. The are the engine that drive the economic model. Thankfully the NHRA understands that. All I can say is feel free to go check out the pits when they run.

BTW when was the last time you even attended a National event? How many in a year? What day do you typically go, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Have you EVER taken someone who is new to the sport or expose them to any other type of drag race event to help grow the sport? Just curious if you do anything to educate or expose more people to the sport, as many of us do. Or would you rather spend your time bashing the largest segment of racers who attend and support National Events.

National events should be heads up racing. If it's an index race leave it at the local level.

I want to see pro mods, outlaw 10.5, pro street and fuel altereds. Throw in some outlaw 8.5, and a factory experimental class and I might buy a circus ticket again.

Although I will admit it's fun to watch the guys in Top Dragster drive the stripe.

I've never understood throttle stop classes. Why take a car that can run 7.50 and put it on a stop to run 8.90 or 9.90?

I bracket race and understand it's not a spectator sport for the most part. I'll go and watch brackets when my car is not running (now), but no way I'd walk across the street to watch a throttle stop race. Nothing personal against anyone who does it or likes it. It's just not my bag.

Dave walking away is what matters at the end of the day. I will back off on my criticism of his car and apologize for the bucket of bolts comment, that was out of line.

Most will have to admit that Super class racing did NOT start out as STOP racing. Years ago, with the cost of super stock, comp and other class climbing rapidly, that left LOTS of cars in the 8.90-10.90 range with no good place to race and the SUPER classes were created. Back then the cars for the most part ran all out on these preset indexes and the racing was more exciting because they left together and were racing what looked like heads-up. Fans could more relate to it, although the "breakout" seemed a little foreign.

Me personally, I have ZERO problem with the index classes or SUPER racing in general, but don't care at all to watch car after car be "on the stop" for half the track. So how about a 6.50 class, or a 7.00 class. I just think the performance on the current cars has way outgrown the indexes. I still think it's very viable class, I just think most would like it way better if the cars "appeared" to be racing each other.

I'd answer this if your opinion mattered to me.

I gave my opinion and didn't "bash" anyone. What I said was KILL PSM and stop "super" throttle sttop racing at National events.

Why are you not sniveling about PSB? You have no idea what I have done to promote the sport, who I have taken or how I have been/am involved.

If you think throttle stop racing is good for the sport, as a tool to make it grow, YOU are the problem.


As for drivers moving up...where else would they come frome? Modified eliminator was killed decades ago and Comp was kept around (lots of politics there) and just because Jeg, Connelly and others like throttle stop racing, what does that have to do with growing the sport, from a TV and spectator point of view? Not a damn thing. That's why Street Outlaws constantly and consistently has better rattings than NHRA crap broadcasts, with crap coverage of anything but fuel cars, the Force family and a smattering of PS with PSM slopped in. So if you want NEW viewers (and most likely new participants) YOUR way of thinking has got to go.


PA DUMPITY DUMP DUMP.

What an arrogant self absorbed douche.

So much for this thread being about "Street Outlaws"................

How's Dave doing?

Daddy Dave

Take me off your xmas card list.

Aren't you the tuff guy that was getting out his "noise maker" to fix everything?

Madscientist,,,, You have way to much time on your hands.Time to move on Mr....

Someone posted that we are discussing Street Outlaws more than NHRA.

Maybe we should have a throttle stop thread.

Just curious what you race Madscientist?

Does it matter? I can't have an opinion if I don't race a certain class?

Thanks for the tip

The man behind the curtain. Somebody has to know this jokester

...And finally a salient point!
When Super Gas came into being at the 9.90 number, those were plenty fast door cars. The Et targets have remained frozen in time while the rest of the performance world has moved forward. They need to drop the indexs down to better represent what the majority of cars in the classes are capable of.

No way you are going to get those 8.5 and 10.5 racers to show up at a National and pay 340$ entry to race for a 1500$ win. Let alone getting a pair of them down the track every minute!

You can have any opinion you want. Just curious.