From this view it does not look like it was a jump. I think the car rocked on the trans brake and boosted got paid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUYhvGJgoQc

Boosted staged last......which means Petey should have been sitting there with his finger on the button already..........are you saying the car would rock when he decked it?.......Don't think I buy that.

When you are staging, rolling up and grab the brake.....yes, some cars tend to rock. But just sitting there, car not moving, brake engaged, deck it....should NOT move.

I think when Dave started backing up, he flinched and the car "jerked" like the turbo cars do when bumping in. Wasn't bad, but it DID move

Looked like Petey small block has done this a time or three and tree'd Boosted and it made look like a jump because Boosted was that late on the flashlight drop

Maybe Pete didn’t know how long Boosted was going to take to bump in and wait to get on the break to avoid heating up the trans. Pete broke his trans that day and they pulled the transmission out of Brains car after he raced Monza.

I agree

The Shocker is one bad a#$ Camaro!!! That thing just works.

Petey's car did not move before the light, period. Boosted got the s!@# tree'd out of him.

Easy to see with the 80's porn quality video. LOL

The car was rolling forward in the side shot showing the front tire prior to the light coming on. It wasn't rocking back/forth. Can't deny that, plain as day.

In that video, you can see Petey's car rocking backwards as Dave steps out in front of them. So it makes sense that it may have begun to rock forward prior to letting go (???). On a tree, it would have been green. I think Petey guessed at the flashlight, and guessed correctly. I would have given the win to the blue car.

Also, the other technical foul for crossing the center line was so flippin' close..... It's supposed to be STREET racing, isn't it?? The way I saw it: 405 boys got outrun in all but 1 race.

I agree.

This is friggin great. More discussion here about street outlaws than the last 5 NHRA events. What does NHRA need?

I couldn't have said it any better. Hope Petey Smallblock comes back next season and cleans his clock!

I know what it doesn't need...a bunch of stuffed shirt block heads who are only at NHRA to scam money from a "non profit" organization. Their only tie to drag racing is MONEY and how to get it from racers, sponsors, fans and advertisers. The cuurent NHRA leadership CAN'T fix drag racing becasue they don't drag race. They can't move with change. NHRA leadership is worthless, petty, conniving, thoughtless and narrow minded.

So, since you asked...what would I do (I have a 9th grade education, my vocabulary rarely has over 4 letter wordsand I don't play well with others. Here is what I would do:

1. Look at EVERY eliminator, not every class. EVERY eliminator. Starting with TF on down (remembering this is with a National event TV package in mind). You can't fix a fuel class trying to slow them down. All they do is blow [censored] up. So get rid on the 3.20:1 gears rule. Let them use 2.90's or taller. RPM's kills [censored]. The NHRA adapted that gear rule 2 deacades ago and it was stupid then. It's retared now. Next, lose the rev limiters. They are parts breakers. Get rid of the killer (literally) two strut wings and mandate a single wing. If you stop the reason for most parts breakage (RPM and RPM limiters) you fix 90% of the crap.

2. Pro Stock. It's very simple. OEM bodies. Period. What your OEM gives you, DEAL WITH IT. They should look like showroom cars (except with a hood scoop...only ricers and fruit cakes think hood scoops are cool...let those dudes go drifting). To go along with the body rules, all engines MUST have the following: OEM deck height, valve angles, cam height, bore spacing and lifter bank angles. Either carbs or EFI. Let the best man win. Pro Stock would be the class to watch. And simple to police (tech).

3. Pro Stock Motorcycle. Scrap the whole damn eliminator. Done. And done.

4. Competition eliminator. See Pro Stock motorcyle. Comp was a piece of crap in 1980. Go back to Modified eliminator, where injectors and cool [censored] was the norm. Modified can and would translate right into PS. Comp sucks BUT money killed Modified Eliminator back in the day. Even NHRA has it's wine and cheese crowd. When they leave, NHRA would be better.

5. TAFC and TAD. Bring in injected Nitro to TAFC. Since I haven't paid attention to either alky class since about 2004 I'm open to advice, but I would damn sure bring injected Nitro into TAFC.

6. Super classes. Now we get to the most retarded form of drag racing I can think of. Absolutely S-T-U-P-I-D. Bring a beginner in who THINKS NHRA is about going fast and show the a throttle stop class and they are ready to leave. If they wanted restrictor type racing they could go to ASSCAR. Buh-bye. I would immediatedly stop all super class racing at nationals. TODAY. I don't give a tinkers crap about how good these dudes can drive, how great their "packages" are. Who cares? Unless you have an assload of money (think Morgan Lucas) no one from a super class goes on to other classes. There are exceptions but DAMMIT, you can't bore the track crowd (never mind a TV audience) with super class racing. Stop this nonsense NOW. Most people think the stands empty because PS is up, but really, it's a mad dash to the pits because it's more fun to watch dudes busting their humps working on a car than it is to watch super class racing. So they miss out on what little Comp and Stock and Super Stock have to offer. KILL SUPER CLASS RACING AT NATIONAL EVENTS NOW.

6. Stock/Super Stock. These two eliminators should be fan favorites but they are not for several reasons. 1. They are run like a brakcet race. 2. IDIOTIC qualifying and elimination rules. Run these cars handicapped off the current class NATIONAL record, not off an index. While I'm at it, the newly reformed Modified Eliminator would run off of a national record too. Somehow, you would have to eliminate some of the classes. I think there are well over 80 classes each for Stock/Super Stock. Cut it way back and run them off the national record.

7. Top Sportsman. I would let the be a 100% no throttle stop bracket race. . 2 Eliminators, one for pipe racks the other for door cars. Big wight breaks for cars with clutches (automatics are boring to watch) and run the pipe rack against the door car for all the money.

I have more ideas but you get the point. NHRA is fixable, but not until a racer is leading the place.

Huh.....interesting. I kinda thought they might do that with T/S and T/D and escort the Super classes out, but I was wrong....or was I?

Just for giggles here is an independent view of the alleged early leave. Decide for yourself what happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUYhvGJgoQc#t=36

Looked like the left lane cut a nuts-on light from watching the slo-mo intro...

I think that if he was staged light at the track, he would NOT have red lit..




Chris..

Note to self: If I'm ever racing with that bunch, Daddy Dave won't be the flagger...

Everyone is splitting hairs,Lol.

When is a .499 red not the same as a .289 red !!

Sure it was close and he almost guessed right as there is slow
mo videos on the net that clearly show's he was moving before the light came
on...Was it close...Sure it was !!

Dave wouldn't cheat anybody,especially when it is being filmed !

Same rules as nhra/ihra...You move early or cross centerline you
loose !!

Guess the question is was it a -.001 Red or a .001 green? Looks awfully close to me. Was it to close for someone to make an immediate call that he jumped as the starter did, which likely tainted the eventual outcome. You can make your own decision. IMO he killed the tree and should have won from that view which in HiDef blown up it seems pretty freaking clear to me. Watch the rear suspension movement and the lite.

Not saying he cheated anyone, just saying sure looks good from this angle and the "starter" who should be unbiased sure made a quick call that was AWEFULLY close, just saying.