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Re: new Challenger?
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I believe that the GTO's closest competitor is  At least they look alike and are about the same price per pound.
I’m listening.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/02/05 09:28 PM
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Without a 6 banger Challenger where will people get their parts cars 30 years from now and more importantly if everyone has a Hemi how will they establish their " I have the best car " pecking order?
Don't forget, there are TWO hemis out now: 5.7L and 6.1L. Maybe by 2007, the 6.4L may go into the Challenger. Doubtful though as a 510hp Hemi will then have more HP than the 505HP Viper V-10.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 12:05 AM
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Without a 6 banger Challenger where will people get their parts cars 30 years from now and more importantly if everyone has a Hemi how will they establish their " I have the best car " pecking order?
Don't forget, there are TWO hemis out now: 5.7L and 6.1L. Maybe by 2007, the 6.4L may go into the Challenger. Doubtful though as a 510hp Hemi will then have more HP than the 505HP Viper V-10.
I hope by 2007 the Viper has more than 505, cause the Vettes sure will, hell they already do
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 12:34 AM
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The Challenger needs to go head to head with the GTO
Yea, and if they do that, it will have the sales to match.  
The GTO is NOT a Pony car. DCX has NOT stated it will go head to head with the GTO. It WILL be facing the Mustang, and as such, needs to be comparable. Which means it needs a lowly V-6 option. What difference does it make, if some of them come with a V-6? Doesn't make your car any slower, does it?
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 12:37 AM
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Look at the current sales of the 300c and Charger. WAY MORE are sold w/the 5.7L (don't include rental fleets).
Not from what I've seen. I've only seen ONE R/T on the road. I've seen 4 SE or SXTs, though.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 12:52 AM
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No word of an automatic? How is anyone going to run A/SA with a Hemi Challenger (would really fit into A/FIA, but close enough)? I wonder if Fred Henson has one on order yet? I hate to think how much a Pro-Trans 5-speed auto and converter would cost.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 04:07 PM
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/03/05 07:20 PM
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Couldn't agree more, I am only 17, i have an oroginal mopar, but the thought of owning a new challenger or any mopar for that matter as a daily driver is an awesome thought!   
Welcome to the board 68Sat 
This just made me think of the younger guys/girls out there that might not ever be able to afford that original 66-71 Hemi car. They now have a change to pick up the used 07? Challengers, and possibly even a new one.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 01:22 AM
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Well I was at work this weekend and a guy came in with a brand new viper, worked, 625hp he said at the dyno last time he went. I told him i had a couple old school dodges and he said yes, I was invited to the challenger unveil at a show and he said he saw the concept and it looked great. Any other word on this show that happened, I found it to be great news. Mike
73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 02:57 AM
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The GTO is NOT a Pony car. DCX has NOT stated it will go head to head with the GTO. It WILL be facing the Mustang, and as such, needs to be comparable. Which means it needs a lowly V-6 option. What difference does it make, if some of them come with a V-6? Doesn't make your car any slower, does it?
How is a 116" LY platform Challenger any more a pony car than a GTO?? I bet you it will weigh more than a GTO.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 03:03 AM
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The GTO is NOT a Pony car. DCX has NOT stated it will go head to head with the GTO. It WILL be facing the Mustang, and as such, needs to be comparable. Which means it needs a lowly V-6 option. What difference does it make, if some of them come with a V-6? Doesn't make your car any slower, does it?
How is a 116" LY platform Challenger any more a pony car than a GTO?? I bet you it will weigh more than a GTO.
Pony cars have a V-8 option, but also have a smaller engine option, as well. V-6, straight 6, 4 cylinder. The reason being, so that they are more affordable to the masses. The GTO has only one engine. The LS1. Putting it out of reach of high school/college students. Which is a major market for Pony cars.
I don't believe the GTO has the right charactoristics for a true Pony car, either. Maybe it's just me, but it seems more Muscle than Pony.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 01:03 PM
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Without a 6 banger Challenger where will people get their parts cars 30 years from now and more importantly if everyone has a Hemi how will they establish their " I have the best car " pecking order?
Don't forget, there are TWO hemis out now: 5.7L and 6.1L. Maybe by 2007, the 6.4L may go into the Challenger. Doubtful though as a 510hp Hemi will then have more HP than the 505HP Viper V-10.
Check out what they said about the 392 Hemi.
New hemi info.
* Note the misprint where "historic 392 horsepower" should read "historic 392 cubic inches".
This is gonna be good! But at over 500HP, I don't think it will fit into the existing weight breaks in NHRA and IHRA Stock!
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 03:46 PM
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Pony cars have a V-8 option, but also have a smaller engine option, as well. V-6, straight 6, 4 cylinder. The reason being, so that they are more affordable to the masses. The GTO has only one engine. The LS1. Putting it out of reach of high school/college students. Which is a major market for Pony cars.
Any reason DCX can't offer a V6 hemi? Just lop off 2 cylinders ~ to the 3.9L v6?
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 06:05 PM
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Somebody mentioned on the first page of this thread that no women would buy a challenger over a mustang.
Well my wife and I both like the new mustangs, but she is not even remotely interested in mopars or any car for that matter in most cases she thinks cars all look alike.
well she saw the new challenger pics and said "I want one of theese".
I explained to her that if she were to get one ,make sure it is orange and is loaded with every performance option available.
I told her that if you're going to play, play hard.
Also collectibility always favors the more highly optioned vehicles, plus ,I get to drive it right?
She says, "no ,you've got your street ,strip barracuda to play with, this one will be all mine."
I will make sure that is negotiable.
The only thing that worries me is price since chrysler wants to distance itself from ford and GM, so reading between the lines makes me feel that the challenger is going to be a pretty hefty chunk of change.
The early bird gets the worm, and the second mouse always gets the cheese.
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/05/05 06:30 PM
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Somebody mentioned on the first page of this thread that no women would buy a challenger over a mustang.
Well my wife and I both like the new mustangs, but she is not even remotely interested in mopars or any car for that matter in most cases she thinks cars all look alike.
well she saw the new challenger pics and said "I want one of theese".
I explained to her that if she were to get one ,make sure it is orange and is loaded with every performance option available.
I told her that if you're going to play, play hard.
Also collectibility always favors the more highly optioned vehicles, plus ,I get to drive it right?
She says, "no ,you've got your street ,strip barracuda to play with, this one will be all mine."
I will make sure that is negotiable.
The only thing that worries me is price since chrysler wants to distance itself from ford and GM, so reading between the lines makes me feel that the challenger is going to be a pretty hefty chunk of change.
Same here. My wife and I were going to buy a new 2006 Mustang convert, but now she wants to wait until the Challenger convert is available.
I love my wife!
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: 69superbee383]
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12/06/05 12:03 PM
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Without a 6 banger Challenger where will people get their parts cars 30 years from now
We live in a disposable world, I doubt they're worrying about what's going to happen in 30 years. If the cars last beyond the extended warranties, that's all people care about these days. Of course they're going to make a 6. If they target only the HEMI market they're asking for short sales that aren't going to cover production costs.
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